You know what we do know? That there is sufficient evidence that red meat causes cancer in humans: https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/can...

You also have to consider that you eating meat does quite a lot of harm to the animal! Have you tried dog meat?

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mikkupikku 21 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Dog meat is pretty good.

(It also amuses me when vegans retreat to xenophobia as their Motte.)

	▲	3rodents 7 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Since when have vegans used dog meat in a xenophobic way? The entire point of the dog meat comparison is to highlight that meat consumption is cultural and that other cultures eat animals we consider to not be food even though they are an animal that has equivalent intelligence to animals we do eat. Dogs are the perfect example, not because of xenophobia, but because they are such a plain example of hypocrisy that can be refuted on every point.

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baud147258 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Have you tried dog meat?

I'd like to try one day. But I don't think I'd easily find a butcher selling it here in Western Europe

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lithocarpus 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Every single study I've seen so far on this topic conflates "red meat" and "processed meat".

I would argue that modern processed meat may well be really bad for us.

I imagine that burned/charred meat is carcinogenic too, same as burnt/charred anything is.

If there's a well constructed study that actually suggests that natural red meat is bad or causes cancer, please give a link and I'll look, I genuinely want to know.

I also wouldn't be shocked to learn that modern factory farmed red meat has stuff in it that's toxic, where say wild venison might not.

I won't disagree on harm to animal, I'm not a fan of industrial animal ag, etc.

	▲	TeMPOraL 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Hardly anyone is eating raw flesh of the animal they just hunted down, so no, there's not going to be many studies to find, because approximately no one has been eating non-processed food for the past several thousands of years. Not even the "health conscious" folks so deathly afraid of the sin of "processing"; they just don't realize that washing and cutting and boiling are sins too.

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ErroneousBosh an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> That there is sufficient evidence that red meat causes cancer in humans

By a barely measurable amount. No-one is ever going to die of cancer caused by eating red meat. You are far more likely to die of heart disease than any sort of cancer, and after that you are far more likely to die in a car accident because you were distracted by your phone (doesn't matter if you were driving the car, or walked out in front of a car because you were too busy scrolling on your phone, in this case). Cancer is waaaay down the list.

> You also have to consider that you eating meat does quite a lot of harm to the animal

Yeah, bit of a shame that. You have to give them the best life you possibly can. But, without livestock farming there is no arable farming, so what are you going to do?

> Have you tried dog meat?

No, because dogs are carnivores and carnivores tend to taste bad.

	▲	auggierose an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> No, because dogs are carnivores and carnivores tend to taste bad. Interesting! If that's true, maybe it is because carnivores are less healthy.