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gravisultra 6 hours ago

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sreejithr 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There's another 1000+ "invaders took my shit" issues in the world. Your logic only leads to non-stop fights between everyone

readitalready 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There are no other countries in the world where the foreign invaders maintain an apartheid system over the native population. Only Israel does that, having one set of rights for the foreign invaders and another set of rights for the native Palestinians. Even the US allows native americans full citizenship.

this2shallPass 2 hours ago | parent [-]

This framing is flawed. Even if you accept the framing, the claims are false.

Tibet? Kashmir? Crimea? South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Somewhat similar situations:

Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar are denied citizenship, face persecution, and live in camps under harsh conditions in Myanmar.

Uyghur Muslims in China are detained and repressed through mass incarceration, forced labor, and cultural assimilation.

The Tigray people in Ethiopia face systemic ethnic discrimination, violence, and exclusion.

In the Western Sahara, the Sahrawi people are discriminated against under Moroccan control, facing displacement and human rights abuses.

In South Sudan, ethnic groups face exclusion and violence in a divided state, with political and economic opportunities limited based on ethnicity.

Minimal research disproves the original claims.

Jews are from Judea. Jews are indigenous to the land of Israel, to the region, the Levant. This doesn't mean other people aren't indigenous. The indegeneity of any other group doesn't preclude the basic fact. Jews are indigenous, not foreign invaders.

About 20% of Israelis are not Jewish. They're mostly Arab and they have full citizenship, the ability to vote, form political parties, access courts, get healthcare (and give healthcare as plenty of doctors and nurses are Arab), education. One prominent example: an Arab Israeli (Palestinian? not sure if he identifies as such) judge convicted a Jewish Israeli President. That judge later became an Israeli Supreme court justice. Typical apartheid? Both were full citizens.

Does this mean Israel is perfect? Nope.

The apartheid libel doesn't actually help Arabs, Jews, Palestinians, Muslims, Christians, or anyone that seeks peace and coexistence. It is inaccurate and counterproductive.

gravisultra 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are any of them doing that with my tax dollars? Is my president starting wars on their behalf? Am I having my rights stripped to stop me from speaking out about any other situation? Nothing impacts Americans like Zionism, it's the #1 problem facing our nation.

ignoramous 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> There's another 1000+ "invaders took my shit" issues in the world...

There's a lot less "invaders are continuing to take my shit". Probably a handful, and every such unresolved, escalating geo-political situation is pushing the world towards a dangerous timeline.

km3r 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Except those people are dead. Those who ethnically cleansed Arabs (and Jews) during the nakba are dead. Almost everyone who was ethnicity cleansed is now dead. At a certain point you need to recognize that a new generation has been born into this conflict, and with it, a change in circumstances. Attitudes like yours ignore that Israelis who were born there don't have another home to 'return' to.

That doesn't mean that Palestinians don't have a right to resist occupation, but the circumstances are significantly materially different today then 40 years ago.

gravisultra 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Joe Biden is older than the state of Israel and Zionists have continuously committed ethnic cleansing and apartheid since their inception. This is an active and current situation.

km3r 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Joe Biden was 6 was israel was created. 6 year olds are not responsible for ethnic cleansing.

And yes, there is ongoing issues (from both sides), but solving the current situation is very different than solving the ethnic cleansing that happened in 1948.