| ▲ | gcanyon 5 hours ago |
| Anyone know how this compares to Apple’s M5 chips? Or is that comparison <takes off sunglasses> apples to oranges. |
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| ▲ | pdpi 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Features like hardware FP8 support definitely make it apples-to-oranges. |
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| ▲ | philjohn 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | But doesn't the Apple M series NPU support FP8, and as it's a monolithic die (except for the GPU in the M5 Pro and Max) it could be argued it has hardware FP8 support, no? | | |
| ▲ | pdpi 21 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | By that logic, on the M4 (which still has the GPU on the same die as the CPU), CPU cores have hardware accelerated raytracing, which is obviously nonsense. | |
| ▲ | badc0ffee 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I thought the M5 had FP16 support, and not FP8. |
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| ▲ | storus 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Grace GB10, Vera's predecessor, had a single core performance comparable to M3 so I guess we can expect at least M4 level performance now. |
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| ▲ | porphyra 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Isn't the GB10 a Mediatek chip and not directly related to the Grace datacenter CPU? | | |
| ▲ | wtallis 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | More fair to say it's completely unrelated to the Grace data center CPU. | |
| ▲ | llm_nerd 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The DGX Spark (and the white box variants of it) run on the Grace Blackwell GB10 "superchip". |
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| ▲ | d_silin 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| M5 are 9-18 cores and optimized for power-efficiency, those are more like Xeons, with 200-300W TDP, I'd bet. |
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| ▲ | kllrnohj 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | If M5 has 9-18 cores and takes ~20w, then that's ~1-2w per CPU core. If these are 200-300W, and have ~100-200 CPU cores, then guess what? That's also ~1-2w per CPU core. Xeons, Epycs, whatever this is - they are all also typically optimized for power efficiency. That's how they can fit so many CPU cores in 200-300W. |
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