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urig 5 hours ago

As an Israeli, this is an inexcusable crime by IDF soldiers. Appallingly, I expect them to receive no punishment. My country's government is criminally racist.

ceejayoz 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

See also: raping a detainee with a knife.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2xrz71zm3o

> Israel's most senior military lawyer has said all charges against five soldiers accused of sexually abusing a Palestinian detainee from Gaza have been dropped.

Don't worry, they punished someone.

> It later emerged the CCTV video had been leaked by the then-Israeli Military Advocate General, Maj Gen Yifat Tomer-Yerushalmi, leading to her resignation and arrest.

fennecbutt 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Can't say I'm glad to have read that, but at the same time it's good that male victims of wartime sexual assault/rape get covered. It's just a shame that the response is still incredibly muted. It's like men just don't want to think about it.

Whereas I feel pure, hot rage at the lack of coverage, the lack of anybody caring. Raped men being offered paracetamol because the clinics after only for women has been seared into my brain for a long time now: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/jul/17/the-rape-of-....

Nothing has changed since then either.

anigbrowl 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It is good that it gets covered, but the antagonistic and accelerated nature of modern media means that such coverage is rapidly subjected to spin, repackaging and so on. This opinionated but imho fair article summarizes how one of the self-admitted participants in the incident was treated as a mini0celebrity by one of the right-aligned Israeli TV channels:-

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/08/the-main-suspect-in-the-sde-t...

woodpanel 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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Agingcoder 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If you don’t mind developing, what made you switch stance ? many people never change their minds even when faced with overwhelming evidence , and based on your prior level of support, I’m quite curious about the actual process .

selcuka 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> many people never change their minds even when faced with overwhelming evidence

Not the OP, but many people do. I've changed my stance on similar topics multiple times in the past, based on new (to me, at least) evidence.

burnt-resistor 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> nuke Gaza for good

Some great empathy for innocent civilians you got there, monster.

dgxyz 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nuking Gaza is an abhorrent position but I don't think there will be any reform out there until there is a decisive win and if I have to pick a side it's not the Palestinians. If the Palestinians win it'll embolden other states or factions to have another go at the six-day war again and possibly prop up break-away action against other factions' host countries. There needs to be a complete and utter defeat that results in an enlightenment process. The strategy and military approach Hamas uses for example cannot be seen to win.

You have to look at the bigger picture. If they lose it's going to be a problem for all of us. Thus I have to support them.

And no I'm not a Trump supporter or Jewish or Israeli. The current operation in Iran is a fuck up. The whole thing that lead to 10-7 was a fuck up. It should have been dealt with years ago, preferably through diplomacy and threat of a strong hand rather than actually having to bomb the place.

There's no righteous side at all in this conflict.

fc417fc802 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Same thought in reverse. If oppressive regimes see that intentionally backing a population into a corner ultimately lets them get away with genocide on the global stage then presumably more of them will attempt it in the future.

nailer 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You can’t have a genocide when the population increases.

ignoramous 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> population increases

  Is the Gaza War a genocide? Two key features of the mortality data are consistent with that charge: first, unusually high mortality among women and children; second, the sudden and dramatic fall in life expectancy. In these respects, the war resembles the Rwandan and Cambodian genocides more closely than any other recent conflict involving the US or Israel.
https://original.antiwar.com/noah_carl/2026/01/07/is-the-gaz...
Ar-Curunir 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> My gut reaction to 10-7 was to nuke Gaza for good

What the actual fuck. Sorry, but you’re a fucking maniac.

nailer 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Imagine a racist murder rampage is widely supported in one area. It’s very natural to want to return the same in kind.

ignoramous 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> return the same in kind

  "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation of this — go and study it!"
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/689306/jewish...
Ar-Curunir 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Murder is bad. Still, killing 200 people is not equivalent to killing 2 million people.

oulipo2 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> more conflict means more power for them

That's literally the strategy of the Likud, who undermined the more moderate Fattah to allow the extremist Hamas to reign on the Gaza strip, hoping that one day the 7th of october would happen, and would let them unleash a genocide...

https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/netanyahu-money-...

ignoramous 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> IDF soldiers

Hopefully, such trigger-happy soldiers are in the minority.

oulipo2 5 hours ago | parent [-]

They are not. And they are incited by their hierarchy to commit more crimes, because they are not held accountable