| ▲ | generic92034 2 hours ago | |
Very bold words. I am not even convinced the USA will stay relevant on the world stage, in the long run. Cutting ties hurts, but the process is underway. Also, "vassalage" is a bold word, if the US cannot make the EU give up Greenland or come running to help them in the Strait of Hormuz (there are also other examples). It is almost as if European politicians are playing it smart. | ||
| ▲ | alephnerd 2 hours ago | parent [-] | |
And my question is - are you fine sacrificing Ukraine in return for a Russian and Chinese military umbrella? This is the hard requirement for China to engage with the EU [0]. The answer in Poland, the Baltics, Czechia, and Finland is NO and that Russia is worse and that Ukraine must be supported, and will back the US no matter how transactional we become. The answer in Hungary, Slovakia, and Belgium [1] is YES and that sacrificing Ukraine for Russia is acceptable. [0] - https://scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3316875/china-... [1] - https://www.ft.com/content/4ce01938-a671-4433-83a7-dada2b3ba... | ||