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gzread 9 hours ago

Have you tried the "forgiveness is easier than permission" approach? What would happen if you just installed the solar panels? I know that in some countries they'd come by with a bulldozer and tear them down again - is your country one of those?

graemep 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I am not sure about a bulldozer, but in the UK you will be forced to demolish it yourself. I am not sure what the penalty is for failing to do so when ordered to, but it seems to be usually effective.

c0balt 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Likely the same as in most other countries: fines, further orders and eventually criminal prosecution.

gwbas1c 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Forgiveness is easier than permission" only makes sense when you know what you're doing and understand the consequences. (IE, paying taxes a little late in the US is okay because the fine is roughly the same as the interest of holding the money in the bank.)

In the case of solar panels, I'm going to assume the OP is talking about something like a grid-scale solar farm instead of rooftop solar production:

1: You need an agreement with "the grid" to get payment for the electricity you generate.

2: Feeding electricity into a power grid is a very dangerous thing, at a minimum the grid operator needs to make sure you aren't going to cause a fire or otherwise break their equipment.

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That being said: If you're a homeowner trying to set up a small solar installation, you can pair the panels with batteries and skip feeding into the grid.

bpodgursky 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This might work in parts of the US, but the UK will put you in jail for tweets, I would not risk this.

maest 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Troll post. Adds nothing to the conversation, just wants to inject a tired meme.

What is the relevance of law and law enforcement around online messaging to renewable energy legislation?

iso1631 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Load of bollocks, this meme is tiresome. It's the USA that fires people and jails people for a month for social media posts

https://apnews.com/article/charlie-kirk-meme-tennessee-arres...

Or if you want some actual context rather than twitter outrage bait

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB3WVygAM8I

bpodgursky 9 hours ago | parent [-]

There are literally people in the UK in jail for tweets deemed to be incitement to violence. Maybe you think it's a good thing! I don't care! But it's ridiculous to argue over the facts on the ground.

gzread 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What were the tweets?

bpodgursky 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yl7p4l11po

> Lucy Connolly, 42, whose husband serves on Northampton Town Council, pleaded guilty in September after posting the expletive-ridden message on X the day three girls were stabbed to death in July 2024.

> She was released from HMP Peterborough earlier after she was handed a 31-month prison sentence in October at Birmingham Crown Court.

Like this one? I mean this is not some hard to find secret.

like_any_other 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't have examples of tweets handy, but here are stickers that get you 2 years in UK jail: They reportedly contained slogans such as “We will be a minority in our homeland by 2066”, “Mass immigration is white genocide”, “intolerance is a virtue” and “they seek conquest not asylum.”

Sources:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-68448867 (does not quote a single sticker that he was jailed for)

https://www.gbnews.com/news/sam-melia-free-speech-activists-...

iso1631 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Ahh, the famous "criminal damage is tweeting" case

gzread 8 hours ago | parent [-]

"putting stickers on things is criminal damage deserving of prison time" is no better of a position

But we should probably pay attention to what was written on the stickers.

iso1631 8 hours ago | parent [-]

America literally jails people for quoting the US president

The UK jails people for extreme incitement

like_any_other 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Extreme incitement to changing government immigration policy.

iso1631 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No you are thinking of AMERICA as I linked