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creatonez 3 hours ago

You should have lost your respect for the "rationalist" "community" a long time ago. They are aggressively wrong about everything, and most of them are eugenicists.

emsign 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They WANT to think in absolutes which is a red flag in a person.

Enginerrrd an hour ago | parent [-]

That's not been my observation at all. Rationalists are some of the only people to really embrace fuzzy and probabilistic thinking. Am I missing something?

danny_codes an hour ago | parent [-]

Maybe rationalists aren’t homogeneous? Unfortunately there are a rather concerning amount of news articles detailing cases where some subset of the rationalist community has gone off the deep end.

SpaceManNabs 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I lost most of my respect for g...n when i noticed he he was one of those IQ guys

blell an hour ago | parent [-]

What does that mean? People who believe in IQ?

wizzwizz4 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They were right about Bitcoin getting big (though I'm not aware of anyone putting their money where their mouth was), and they were a decent source of information leading up to the peak of the COVID-19 pandemic (which probably saved a handful of lives). Just because they're almost always aggressively wrong, that doesn't mean they're aggressively wrong about everything.

gzread 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It does mean you probably shouldn't listen to them, because the expected value of listening to them is negative.

wizzwizz4 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

It means I shouldn't listen to them in general. The LessWrongers are mainly wrong about things they think they understand: when they aren't overconfident, their improvisational skills tend to be decent. They were an excellent source of information about COVID-19, but they're a terrible source of information in the areas where they think they have expertise.

When there's a crisis, it's still worth checking in to see what the LessWrongers are saying about it, because it might be very useful, and it's pretty easy to tell: you just check whether it looks like they're doing science, or Rationalism™®, and only investigate further in the rare cases where it's the former.

unmole 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> most of them are eugenicists.

[citation needed]

creatonez 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Covered in detail here: https://reflectivealtruism.com/category/my-papers/human-biod...