> Please stop blaming the devs. You're laundering blame. Almost no detail of a web site or app is ever up to the devs alone.

If a bridge engineer is asked to build a bridge that would collapse under its own weight, they will refuse. Why should it be different for software engineers?

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sublinear 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's a website and not a bridge. Based on the description given, it's not a critical website either. If it was, the requirements would have specified it must be built differently.

You're not even arguing with me BTW. You're arguing against the entire premise of running a business. Priorities are not going to necessarily be what you value most.

	▲	KronisLV 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> If it was, the requirements would have specified it must be built differently. I’ve seen a lot of times where “business people” ask for a feature that sounds good but isn’t technically viable for any number of reasons. The devs not doing pushback would lead to similarly non-functional/broken stuff getting shipped. The pushback doesn’t even need to be adversarial, just do some requirements engineering, figure out what they want and go “Okay, to implement X in the best possible way, we should do Y and avoid Z because of W.” In the bridge analogy, the people who are asking for a specific design might not know that it’d collapse under its own weight and the engineers should look for the best solution. There are environments where devs can't do that sort of requirements engineering and those are generally pretty dysfunctional - obviously you don't need that for every feature request, but it's nice to have that ability be available when needed.

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bobsmooth 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because software engineers aren't real engineers. A real engineer has liability insurance.

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nikanj 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Because bridge engineers can be sued if the bridge kills people

	▲	xigoi an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I wish we could sue developers who create unusably bad software wasting time of millions of people.