They seem to be ready for this:

> Q: What if the AG actually fines you?

> Then we will have accomplished something no amount of mailing list discussion could: a court record establishing what AB 1043 actually means when applied to the real world. Does "operating system provider" cover a bash script? Does "general purpose computing device" cover a Raspberry Pi Pico? Can you fine someone "per affected child" when no mechanism exists to count affected children? These are questions the legislature left unanswered. We'd like answers. A fine would be the fastest way to get them.

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taneq 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yep, the goal of civil disobedience is literally to get sued/charged/arrested in order to force the issue to be (hopefully) properly and publicly resolved.

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dataflow 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I have a feeling they're going to be very disappointed with the actual answers they'll receive to these questions.

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Telaneo 3 hours ago | parent [-]

On the one hand, I'd love a judge to respond 'yes' to all of these, if only to confirm how ridiculous they are and that a reasonable implementation is impossible. On the other hand, I'd hate for a judge to respond 'yes', because then the enforcement of said ridiculousness becomes vindicated.

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dataflow 3 hours ago | parent [-]

These aren't all yes/no questions. And what I'm saying is I think anyone who thinks there's some sort of paradox in answering these will be in for a rude awakening. E.g., "How do you fine someone per child affected?" Idk, maybe the parents that become aware of their children being affected would join a lawsuit, and others would not be parties to the suit?

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akdev1l 2 hours ago | parent [-]

so many people start asking random questions like these acting as if judges are drooling baboons or something

“What’s even an operating system will this apply to my toaster?” - probably not, a judge would ultimately decide.

	▲	bee_rider 14 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		That seems pretty annoying for people who sell computing appliances like smart toasters, routers, and televisions, and videogame consoles—do they preemptively start implementing in case a judge decides they are covered? Why not write an easy-to-interpret law in the first place?