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JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago

> most of the arguments against it are moot points or simply falsehoods

What are the falsehoods in complaints against police unions?

advael 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Police unions aren't the same thing as other unions. Most unions exist to equalize labor negotiation through collective bargaining, and police unions tend to include and align with the leadership in the organization that a union would traditionally be negotiating with. In practice they're a lot more like a military contractor than a union (in that their role is to prevent public accountability)

JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> Police unions aren't the same thing as other unions

What about California teachers’ unions? European notaries?

AndrewKemendo 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is correct and the proof is that police do not strike with labor they fight labor on behalf of capital

The core premise of a union is that you have solidarity primarily across unions which is actually how you get collective-bargaining at larger scales

gruez an hour ago | parent | next [-]

>This is correct and the proof is that police do not strike with labor they fight labor on behalf of capital

I thought it was because they couldn't strike because they were "essential"?

JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> core premise of a union is that you have solidarity primarily across unions which is actually how you get collective-bargaining at larger scales

Police unions in New York regularly join hands with other public-sector unions.

K0balt 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

lol. I typed ubi is and the autocorrect put “unions.” It has been corrected . But it is kinda funny anyway.

JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent [-]

This reminds me of a trading incident decades ago. We were unwinding a portfolio of correlation trades. The trades basically bet on continued correlation between assets. Unwinding those trades means assets which typically correlate now correlate less. When we fucked we they sometimes anticorrelated. Anyway, some of these price movements were noticed and incessantly commented on by CNBC pundits. Theories abounded. All wrong. Most amusing.