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Tomte 6 hours ago

SEP: https://plato.stanford.edu/archives/win2024/entries/habermas...

My favorite quote of Habermas ist about Luhmann’s[1] theory: "It‘s all wrong, but it‘s got quality".

[1] the Zettelkasten person

smooc 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I like Luhmann’s theory better. What i like about it is that Luhmann argues that the smallest denominator of a social system is a realation between two. Habermas says it can be brought down to an individual. Which in my mind defeats the “social” part.

goodmythical 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Havin not read the underlying theory, is the society of one constructed with the belief that one has relations to one's self?

That is, I could see that the idea of a society of two could be derived from a society of one in that I could extend my desire to be kind to my past, present, and future selves, to a desire to be kind to selves that are not my own.

Kind of like a computing network being a generalisation of the network that exists inside anyone one machine in that networking is just i/o with more steps and more wire?

biggestlou an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Where exactly in Habermas is such an idea expressed?