| ▲ | ladberg 15 hours ago |
| You are paying the smartest people in the world to think really really hard, and turns out they might also think really really hard about not making the world a worse place |
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| ▲ | asddubs 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| it's not working |
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| ▲ | bdangubic 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Is this really the case though? How many smartest people do you really think are there that fit this narrative?! I want to believe there are at least some but I think they are minority in this group… otherwise I think all these pretty much evil corporations would have a awfully difficult time attracting talent? maybe some do but… |
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| ▲ | saagarjha 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | Most evil corporations have fairly normal jobs available. | | |
| ▲ | bdangubic 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | if you want to make the world a better place as OP stated perhaps you can get a normal job in maybe less evil corp? | | |
| ▲ | saagarjha 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Most companies are evil in some way, the question is how evil and how close you are to the evil. Most people will pick "not that evil but pays a lot". A few will take "pretty evil and pays more than a lot". Some will choose "less evil and pays poorly". (It's worth noting that there are a lot of jobs that are not at the Pareto frontier and are "more evil and pay worse" but social mobility etc. cause them to be selected anyway). | |
| ▲ | munificent 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | When presented with a choice between: 1. Take a job making $$$$$$$ at a company making the world worse. 2. Take a job making $$$ at a company not making the world worse. Very few people have a personality such that they'll pick 2. | | |
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| ▲ | bdangubic 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | exactly what I was asking OP, her/his comment sounded like people will pick the later (I agree with you) |
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| ▲ | jasonfarnon 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| not really. 15-20 years ago that same upper echelon of college/professional school graduates you're describing were going into finance. |
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| ▲ | watwut 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Except they do? They are certainly not making it better place. Like, ok, it is money for few companies and salary, it is business and probably fun work. But it is absurd to claim it is "making the world better place". |
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| ▲ | metalcrow 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | I'm not sure you can provide an objective (i.e way to show that it is absurd) means of explaining how an AI researcher is making the world a worse place. It's going to come down to disagreeing about some axiom like "is ASI rapidly approaching" or "Is AGI good to have" and there's no right answer to those. |
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