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pier25 17 hours ago

The Logi Options app is such a piece of crap. On macOS it also requires special permissions otherwise it won't even work.

If you only need to connect a device to the Bolt adapter you can use this web app by Logitech without having to install anything:

https://logiwebconnect.com/

y-curious 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

My friend used to work at Logitech. Everyone in the trenches knows the software they pump out is trash, but the higher ups are somehow convinced that it “sets them apart”. I assume they think it sets them apart in a good way, but it’s quite the opposite.

hypercube33 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Feels like every mouse, keyboard, webcam whatever needs a separate different bloated app to configure and they even then don't have all of the settings. Hopefully I'm crazy but it also feels like they are even getting worse over time.

It's not just Logitech I have seen other vendors with app sprawl. Lenovo has duplicate or triplicate apps that do the same things or are wired into drivers and some are just a front end for tools they claim the new are replacements for. Wild stuff

wincy 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That’s sad to hear, I remember how good Logitech was back in the mid-2000s, the Logitech G15 keyboard had 18 programmable macro buttons and a media LED screen and media buttons that had a custom plugins SDK for stuff like Winamp, so I could listen to all my pirated music without having to alt+tab out of World of Warcraft. I used that thing until most of the letters had worn off the keycaps.

Around 2009 or so my Logitech wired laser mouse died after years of heavy use, and I emailed them about it, they sent me a brand new mouse, their newest top of the line model with no hassle at all. I’m not even sure it was still under warranty.

userbinator 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

On macOS it also requires special permissions otherwise it won't even work.

That doesn't sound unusual for something that interacts directly with hardware.

pier25 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

System wide permissions 24/7 even when you're not configuring the USB devices?

lmz 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Also any app-specific bindings would I guess require some hooking (input interception / injection) at the software level.

mschuster91 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Anyone not living under the rock for the last decades uses libusb. No need for special permissions at all, you can even use WebUSB in browsers these days.

All you need is competent firmware and driver engineers.

Reason077 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The Mac software for my Logitech mouse is called "Logitech G Hub" and it's also pretty awful. Every now and then my Mac starts going bonkers, random clicks all over the place or windows randomly switching focus. Quitting the Logitech G Hub app instantly solves it. (I'm not sure why it wants to run all the time anyway, it's only needed if I want to change some settings on the mouse)

The mouse itself (G305) is great, however!

vladvasiliu 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Why do you have that running? I have two old g700s's, had another g703 (I think?) for a while. They have onboard memory, contrary to the "normal" non-gaming Logitech mice, so whatever configuration you set on them, they'll remember it without any software.

sheiyei an hour ago | parent [-]

I ran my G402 on the onboard memory (bound the special buttons to F13-F15) until I was faced with enough games that didn't understand those keys. Later I had to switch to per-game profiles which sucked

atonse 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’ve been using SteerMouse as an alternative for years. It completely disappears and works 100% of the time.

someguyiguess 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I absolutely DO NOT want software that completely disappears. No thanks.

jagged-chisel 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It should be ever-present. It should make itself known. It should be like an IT guy who’s competent, but eager. It should keep you informed of every update, just like he should keep informed of every new thing he learns.

sheiyei an hour ago | parent [-]

It should at least have a system-jamming 15 second startup sequence at bootup to be taken seriously. That's why Logitech does it

stanac 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's probably the only program I despise, but need. I want to use small button under the wheel as middle click (I have short fingers), and until now, the only way to do it is/was to use logi options+. LO+ updater will get stuck on update every couple of months and while it's updating my button configuration doesn't work. Solution? kill process, uninstall, reinstall and hope it will not get stuck again any time soon.

I have to test Mauser.

While I am here, can anyone recommend good alternative mouse with both smooth/quick and precision scroll like logitech's? Back and forth buttons are also a must for me, horizontal scroll optional. Ideally a mouse would save configuration onto itself, so I don't have rely on garbage software like LO+.

dostick 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Reassign the button - maybe possible with Karabiner

k12sosse 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The scroll isn't anything special but you might find something that works for you (there's a large lineup), corsair make an ok mouse that can save multiple hardware profiles, and is programmable with input remapping and macros, etc.

stevenpetryk 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm always afraid of the day Logitech takes this away. Somebody should try to make an open source deploy of this too.

pvab3 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Chrome or Edge only it says