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breppp 7 hours ago

Back then there were only two ships attacked in the straits, and one was an Iranian shadow fleet ship. I am not sure that is "closing the straits" in any shape or form

nottorp 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

So if there's an active shooter on the one alley to your workplace you should still be at work in time, right? :)

Or let's make the analogy clearer: if your Uber driver cancels the ride because there's an active shooter on the only road between him and you, it's their fault not the shooter's?

breppp 6 hours ago | parent [-]

no, but if two ships were hit, while one clearly by mistake, it is very early to say the straits are going to be closed as opposed to incorrect targeting

your analogies have went past me though, generally although a common misconception, countries are not people and wars are not comparable to crime

BigTTYGothGF 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh, well, if it was by mistake...

ceejayoz 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's precisely how you close the straits; by making everyone scared to go through.

MengerSponge an hour ago | parent [-]

You don't even have to scare everyone. You just have to scare the insurers. Without insurance ships won't sail. The exposure is huge, so a small blip in risk makes all the modeling go kerplooie. Traffic stopped when the insurers said drop the anchors.

To restore traffic, we need that risk to return to previous levels, which requires diplomacy and trust. I don't expect resolution any time soon.

GeorgeWBasic an hour ago | parent [-]

Impeachment, and then we could get there. It's not impossible.

Macha 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As the houthis have long demonstrated, you can screw up shipping from the coast

tekla 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm guessing you watched the Hegseth interview?

--- Hegseth: “The only thing prohibiting transit in [Hormuz] right now is Iran shooting at shipping.”

“It is open for transit should Iran not do that” ---

Oh really? I thought it was because Mercury was in retrograde.

I guess if even Mr. Hegseth is admitting that transit is effectively prohibited in the Strait, he must actually be lying and part of the deep state.