When Meta starting introducing E2E messaging it was a huge push. I wonder why they're doing away with it.

It was for plausible deniability because of regulatory scrutiny. Regulator's dead now, so now there's no downside and only upsides to spying on your users.

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dngray 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They never did this for user privacy, and yes I think you're spot on. This was just to remove liability.

Now it just costs them the data and development cost to maintain. Any remaining problems they'll throw some crappy AI moderator at to fix.

	▲	gmerc 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Not hard to be right about this when you worked there at the time ;)

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infinitewars 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Palantir

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john_strinlai 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

i am guessing that they just dont really need to pretend to care anymore. e2e messaging was a big marketing push, not ever an ideological thing. i assume they no longer believe the marketing benefits outweigh the downsides.

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varispeed 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Probably Whatsapp is next, if it isn't quietly already.

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garbawarb 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I doubt it, E2E isba huge part of Whatsapp's selling point considering it's exclusively a messaging app. Instagram is primarily a social app with messaging features.

	▲	gzread 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Normal people don't choose a messaging app based on E2EE but based on whether their friends use it.

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deafpolygon 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Probably Whatsapp is next, if it isn't quietly already.

And I will be pushing to remove WhatsApp if that’s the case.

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paxys 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because they realized they need the data for AI

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gzread 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

PR. They wanted to seem like the good guys, but they get your messages through backdoors like the automatic backup.

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modeless 5 hours ago | parent [-]

You're thinking of Apple. WhatsApp backups are not stored by Meta. Apple is the company that breaks their "end-to-end" encryption by backing up the encryption keys to their own servers.

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topranks an hour ago | parent [-]

You can opt-in to encrypting those backups so Apple have no access.

	▲	modeless an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Yes. I believe a small percentage of Apple users do this. Unfortunately that doesn't prevent Apple from reading your messages from the backups of the vast majority of people you correspond with.