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NwtnsMthd 2 hours ago

That last sentence holds a lot of truth.

Our company has drastically downsized its dependence on Atlassian in the past month, we will be completely free in a few more. With the help of modern AI tools we've been able to replace their products with internal tools that are better tailored to our needs.

jorvi 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Still feels weirdly inefficient.

Why have every company vibe code their own semi-good bespoke tool when instead one company can handcraft the tool with optimisations much better than AI can ever dream of, and then sell that tool for a reasonable enough markup that the value proposition is big enough. Especially if the tool is open source open core, so companies can PR improvements they think will be broadly applicable.

hedora 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I last used Atlassian stuff about a decade ago.

Did they ever get around to fixing basic bugs like "Jira and Confluence use different markdown dialects"?

They've had a decade to address those sorts of obvious problems that bite 100% of the end users of their stuff, and apparently employed over 1600 people during that decade. That's 160 centuries of person time. I wonder what it was wasted on, if not making their fairly small core product suite usable.

I think we're going to see more and more incumbent companies with big moats and terrible products get replaced with vibe coded solutions over the next year or two.

bombcar 2 hours ago | parent [-]

No, they simplified it by cancelling almost all non-cloud instances and moved to being a direct per-seat SaaS, with (apparently) all the same bugs but fewer features.

Zigurd an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was talking to people I know about this topic and looking for obvious big success stories of vibecoding replacing enterprise tools like Atlassian I found they are very hard to find. At this stage I have no doubt that there are IT departments trying to displace SaaS products and re-engineer legacy systems, but it's probably too early to measure results.

fred_is_fred 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think any company with some motivated developers and a budget for h/w or cloud could rebuild a good enough JIRA in a month. I don't see how Atlassian survives long term

ebiester 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Because you see the IC side of the Atlassian toolkit. The management side is much more expansive and this starts mattering when you are coordinating larger projects.

That said, if you are a smaller company, you absolutely could kill Jira pretty quick.

bombcar 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Jira isn't the product, it's the development platform that builds the product (which is a codified version of all the bad business decisions your company has ever made).