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AftHurrahWinch 3 hours ago

Agreed. The United States had an election in 1864, while the states were literally at war with each other.

miltonlost 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah... because Lincoln wasn't a wanna-be tyrant like Trump. The leaders in charge of the elections are diametrically different people. Lincoln fought to keep the Union together; Trump tried to cause a coup to stay in charge in Jan 2020. My god.

Imustaskforhelp 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The name of Lincoln and Trump cannot and shouldn't be used within the same sentence. Lincoln's story is inspiring and you can see him worried about his country and he grew up learning law books being poor and rose up to power.

Lincoln says, "With malice toward none, with charity for all"

Trump is the exact opposite of Lincoln being "With malice towards all, with charity for none"

The irony of the situation is that they are from the same party.

He believed that the greatest danger to America came from within, warning that if the nation faltered, it would be due to self-destruction rather than external forces

Lincoln's famous speech: , "At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide."

Lincoln was ahead of his time and might as well have predicted something like Trump.

NetMageSCW 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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SideburnsOfDoom 2 hours ago | parent [-]

This is just not thought through.

If I try to rob a bank with a plastic toy gun, the charge which I would be arrested for would not be "bad behavior that had no chance of accomplishing anything", it would be "bank robbery". Just "bank robbery", full stop. The abject failure of my attempt would have no bearing at all on that charge.

The argument that "he had no chance of accomplishing anything" has no bearing at all on intent.

"He didn't try" is not in any sense the same thing as "he was nowhere close to succeeding". The goalposts have moved between those 2 statements.