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niek_pas 3 hours ago

"Asia" didn't roll out anything. Thailand, Vietnam, The Philippines, and Pakistan rolled out independent measures.

neaden 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The thing I feel like is really important to remember whenever thinking about the world and demographics is that most people are Asian. As in more people live in Asia then outside of it. Conversely when a headline or something mentions Asia, it is rare they actually mean the majority of the continent or people living there.

jghn 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

My favorite is when people say they like "asian cuisine" or "asian food". China alone has several distinct cuisines. Why do we act like this is a monolithic concept?

0x457 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Because there was a lot of cultural cross-contamination between these countries, there is a huge overlap in ingredients due to climate similarities and trade between neighboring countries.

I group European & American food into their respective groups as well.

> Asia rolls out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel cris...

Makes no sense, same with "I'm in a mood for asian food"

pzo an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> Makes no sense, same with "I'm in a mood for asian food"

Thai, Japanese, Vietnamese, Indian food / cuisine even thought different is more probably closer to each other same like e.g. Polish and Spanish is closer to each other than to most other asian cuisine.

0x457 an hour ago | parent [-]

Asian countries developed with more overlap in basic ingredients, cooking techniques, and historical influence networks than Europe did. Historically there were 3 influence zones in Asia. There is a lot of pickling, fermenting, salting, drying. In Asia of these techniques were more or less unified. Fish sauces from different countries are Pepsi vs Coca-Cola level of difference.

> Polish and Spanish is closer to each other than to most other asian cuisine.

I'd say Polish has a lot of similarities with Asian cuisine. Sure, both have stews and sausages, but flavor profiles are very different: acidic vs sour.

I won't be able to tell difference between gyoza & wonton if they shaped the same, but surely I can tell difference between ravioli & uszka. Uszka is IMO closer to any dumpling from Asia than to anything European.

armandososa 19 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> I group European & American food into their respective groups as well.

If by "American" you mean "Unitedstatesian" then I agree. But Latinamerican food is worlds apart from what the US and Canada eat.

evilduck an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Globally, everyone does this.

When someone outside of America thinks of American food, do you think they will think of Cajun gumbo, TexMex, Clam Chowder, or something you'd find on the menu at McDonalds?

cucumber3732842 38 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

>When someone outside of America thinks of American food, do you think they will think of Cajun gumbo, TexMex, Clam Chowder, or something you'd find on the menu at McDonalds?

Statistically this random non-american is some sort of Asian. Therefore the answer is finger lickin good.

rootsudo 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

Ah, a fan of Korean fried chicken, I see.

nradov 29 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I thought that McDonald's was considered Scottish cuisine?

kubb 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's similar to how people say "Europe does this or that". Basically the part of their thoughts dedicated to that part of the world is so small that all they can afford is a tiny box, and everything has to go in there, reality be damned.

Muromec 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

Europe at the very least has one parliament that sometimes passes laws that apply to almost the whole continent

fullstop an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A lot of the places by me have both a Chinese menu and a Japanese menu. Some even have a Thai menu.

So when you're going out for Asian food, it really is that. No sense in being pedantic here.

wat10000 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

And I doubt the contents of any of those menus are particularly close to what you'd find in the countries they claim to be from. It's really more like "Asian-inspired."

mghackerlady an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I went to a combo thai-chinese place once... Now I want sesame chicken...

hrimfaxi an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Isn't there a concept of regional cuisine like "Mediterranean cuisine"?

ajkjk 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's a category that makes sense to people and communicates something clearly..?

jstummbillig 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because that is how it's presented to "us". If the cuisine that we could access where we live was more diverse, we would think differently about the entire set (which is not happening for another set of entirely good reasons, but alas.)

StilesCrisis an hour ago | parent [-]

I don't know about that. Japanese food and Thai food have very little in common besides rice. Possibly there is some overlap in curry but not much.

jstummbillig an hour ago | parent [-]

Sure. And most people I knew are able to differentiate between "sushi" and "Thai curry".

dheera 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When Asians use the term, we usually use it to mean "my home cuisine and other cuisines that share similar characteristics"

When my wife or I say "I feel like eating something Asian today" it usually means spicy-Chinese adjacent, i.e. served hot, vegetables fully cooked, heavy on flavor, paired with either rice or freshly made noodles.

Korean qualifies, Sichuan food qualifies, Thai food qualifies, Indian food sort of borderline qualifies on some days if we haven't eaten it recently.

We don't usually mean Japanese food when we say that. That's just our mutual understanding of what we call "Asian food". Yeah, I guess we unapologetically kicked Japan out of culinary Asia :)

Another Asian family from a different part of Asia probably uses the term to refer to a different subset of Asian cuisines.

Like just about everything else in Asia, it's a fluid term, I've only ever seen people in the west be pendantic about it.

foobarian an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Wait until you hear someone talk about "begging the question"

bombcar 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's too broad a term - it covers too many disparate countries and ends up being like using Americas to refer to Canada and the USA or similar.

I read the headline and assumed it was "Japan and China" but it wasn't.

neaden 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

TBF the entire Western Hemisphere is about the population of China, so it's actually far far worse.

aleph_minus_one 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It is quite unclear how big China's population really is; see for example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFbMWq-xvXU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymmaYswXm78

Barrin92 a few seconds ago | parent | next [-]

>I now believe China’s actual population may be as low as 300–400 million

that we now live in a world where people are confident enough to make claims this stupid in front of a camera should frighten anyone.

Some basic logic, if China had the population of the United States it would have magically acquired the per capita economic output of the US in ~30 years, consume several times the energy and food it imports and somehow have produced several cities the size of Tokyo. The fact that China produces ~50% of the world's ships and has the manufacturing output of the rest of the G7 combined is impressive with over a billion people, but hey they must have some space age technology to do it with 3% of the world's population!

In philosophy there's a concept called the coherence theory of truth, if you want to know if something is true check if it doesn't defy basic logic or other facts you know, great tool instead of believing what youtubers say

jama211 41 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Youtube videos are always a poor quality source - the UN doesn’t accept China’s numbers exactly but they believe the total number is broadly correct due to cross referenced data, and expert independent demographers largely agree. The figure of 1.4 billion is likely within the ballpark and the idea that this is off by hundreds of millions is considered a fairly fringe theory, almost a conspiracy theory.

EA-3167 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The equivalent term is "The West."

bombcar an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Don't bring Valinor into it.

whycome 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Just wait for "the Shield of America" too (bleh)

speefers 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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Pay08 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Not to mention that people tend to lump Oceania into it too.

bsimpson 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Especially because it sounds like the Philippines is pushing for a 4 day workweek, but the rest of SEA is asking people to work from home, use less AC, take the stairs…

alephnerd 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It's also Vietnam, Thailand, and unofficially Pakistan.

The reality is the bigger Asian nations like China, India, SK, and Japan that worked on building resilient alternatives after the 2022-23 ONG shock due to the Russian Invasion of Ukraine aren't as dramatically impacted. The others didn't or were hit by other crises at the same time.

For example, in Pakistan's case, their government raised fuel taxes by around 33% because they didn't meet their IMF loan terms [0] but somehow found $11M to buy a private jet [1] for the CM of Punjab who is also the niece of the PM and the daughter of the former PM and Pakistan is in the middle of a war with Afghanistan [2].

Edit: can't reply

> gas cylinder booking...

The gas cylinder/LPG issue is due to consumer habits - induction and electric stovetops have been available in India for decades, but there has been a cultural aversion to adopting electric.

Even Indian Americans in the US prefer using Gas Stovetops over Electric for cultural reasons (eg. I've had my parents say the "taste" of food is worse on electric instead of gas stovetops despite living here since Clinton was president).

And dhabas and restaurants used to use coal briquettes or kerosene until those were banned in the 2000s-2010s for pollution reasons (much help that did /s) and to promote LNG and CNG, and will most likely revert back to those.

Additionally, India has shifted from Qatari to Omani LNG [3], which was what India was already using before the India-Qatar FTA led to a diplomatic thaw between the two.

It's the same situation in Vietnam as well.

> freight is pretty much fucked

Indian diesel prices are being subsidized and kept constant [4]. That said, this is a good forcing function to begin India's shift to electric trucks.

And freight and passenger rail is already around 98-99% electrified in India [5] which reduces the need for diesel.

[0] - https://www.dawn.com/news/1979709

[1] - https://www.arabnews.com/node/26978/pakistan

[2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Afghanistan%E2%80%93Pakis...

[3] - https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/india-gail-buys-oman...

[4] - https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/petrol-diesel-prices-to-rema...

[5] - https://infra.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/railways/ind...

abdullahkhalids an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> eg. I've had my parents say the "taste" of food is worse on electric instead of gas stovetops

If you are using the cooking technique of "bhunai" [1], which is quite common in South Asian cooking, there is a large difference in food quality you can make with an electric and with a gas stove. Gas stoves are able to provide higher heat at consistent levels, and you can tilt the pot to concentrate heat in one corner to intensify the cooking. So I don't disagree with your parents.

[1] bhunai is when you cook meat with spices at very high heat while rapidly stirring it. I think the willingness to burn the spices during this process is what sets this apart from similar techniques in other cuisines, but I am no expert.

alephnerd 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

My mom doesn't cook bhunai - she's pushed for a low oil household since I was a kid and is extremely health conscious verging on "crunchy".

I've also done bhunai with electric stovetops and ceramic cookware like Dutch ovens and green pans and gotten close enough to an authentic taste - the marginal differences that exist are due to differences in ingredients in the US (eg. lower milkfat percentages, onions instead of shallots, different cultivars of vegetables, etc) and some inexperience of non-Westerners with Western cookware.

It's a very solvable problem. For example, the Indian restaurants my parents like and feel taste "authentic" use electric stovetops as well in the back, but discriminate on ingredients and masalas.

fakedang 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There's currently a gas crisis in India. A country that had a $10 billion investment in an Iranian port to trade oil and gas directly with them, except they decided to become America's bitch and halted the project after American sanctions.

Anyways, everyone's affected - gas cylinder booking requests which usually take a couple of days to fulfill currently have a 30 day period to fulfill in some major cities. Roadside vendors are shutting down temporarily, as are many restaurants.

At least EVs have had a good success rate in adoption, so commuting isn't as much affected. But freight is pretty much fucked.

Again, this is a country that could have gotten a sweetheart deal from Iran, just like China, but apparently decided to become a little bitch.

garyfirestorm an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Poverty doesn’t have the luxury to choose or take moral stands. When a dollar worth oil price fluctuation can lead to thousands going hungry for a day, you as a leader will do everything to avoid catastrophic sanctions.

throwaway473825 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Freight will eventually go electric as well. It's crazy how fast it's happening in China:

https://www.electrive.com/2026/01/23/year-end-surge-electric...

mschuster91 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> It's crazy how fast it's happening in China

The benefits of living in an authoritarian state. The CCP says "we will provide for cheap electric trucks" and it happens, no matter if that displaces tens, if not hundreds of thousands of workers in ICE car manufacturers.

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ifwinterco 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Particularly funny because of course Israel, Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Iran are all themselves in Asia

thelastgallon 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wish India did this. Millions of copy paste workers, would ease up traffic.

nhubbard 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe a better title would say "Asian nations [independently] roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis"?

alephnerd 3 hours ago | parent [-]

^ "Some" Asian nations.

It's still 5/6 day workweeks in the office in China, India, SK, Japan, HK, and Singapore. Same in the Gulf.

wolvoleo an hour ago | parent [-]

Well, the gulf probably won't be affected? As they can just be supplied by fuel truck or pipeline instead of ship.

linhns an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’m living in one of these countries. Abject failure from powers that be to even consider 4-day workweek as an alleviation. Not the first time it happens yet they learn nothing.

butILoveLife 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Right? Weird title.

Jeffrin-dev 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

not only these, other asian countries are also falling into this fuel crisis.

tarentel 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Right this is a terrible title. An equally bad and catchy title would have been Asia orders people to take stairs instead of elevators.

Razengan 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Asia" is one of the dumbest archaic misnomers still in use by Western people

recursive 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What do you call it? It's a continent, right?

andrewflnr 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Calling Eurasia a continent would make more sense. "Asia" doesn't have a really sensical physical boundary. May as well say Mexico is a different continent from the US just because there's a big cultural and ethnic difference across the border.

bombcar 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The term "North America" almost always means US or US and Canada, hardly ever the technically correct "US, Canada, Mexico" except in things like NAFTA.

And "Central America" often means "Mexico and countries south that speak Spanish" even though LATAM might be a bit closer.

andrewflnr 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Other nonsensical terminology also existing would imply nothing about the usage of "Asia". That said, I'm not sure I see the same incorrect usage of North America as you do, either.

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0_____0 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's all Asia. Europe is in Asia. Europeans are West Asian. The traditional boundary of the Ural Mountains is a fabricated one. There is no reason to separate Europe out of Asia except for that "people that look like that go over there."

nobodyandproud 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The phrasing and implication is all wrong.

“4-day week, WFH roll-outs in Asia to solve fuel crisis caused by Iran War” is better.

Razengan an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The way they use it is what "Oriental" used to mean: East Asia: Japan, China, Korea, Vietnam etc.

wat10000 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's a somewhat vaguely defined region. It often excludes India and the Middle East. It always excludes Europe, despite there being no sensible reason to consider them to be two separate continents.

Consider this sentence from the article: "Asia is particularly dependent on oil exports from the Middle East." That's a bizarre statement if you take "Asia" literally. The Middle East is in Asia. Is Saudi Arabia dependent on oil exports from the Middle East? Is Iran?

Hamuko 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's not really that different from "Europe", especially when you listen to Americans talk about "Europe".

wolvoleo an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yes though Europe is a lot more culturally similar and has a shared government for the most part.

Asia has very distinct countries and in some cases is even at war even if it's a cold one. Like India vs Pakistan, India vs China, North vs South Korea, China vs Taiwan. And customs, languages and (where applicable) religions are more radically different than within Europe too.

It makes less sense calling it "Asia" than it is calling Europe "Europe" :)

nikkwong an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

At least in the case of "europe" it could refer to the EU (which obviously is not correct because it doesn't encompass all of europe). But when they are talking about "Asia"—what governing body would they even be referring to? It's obviously non-sensical.

Mordisquitos an hour ago | parent [-]

> in the case of "europe" it could refer to the EU (which obviously is not correct because it doesn't encompass all of europe)

Not just that. If we get really pedantic, the EU is not only in Europe but includes territories in Africa (parts of Spain) and Asia (the entirety of Cyprus). And that's not even getting into the intercontinental shenanigans of France!

thewhitetulip 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can't expect Western media to write well. I saw a funnt reel today. It's Italy to Americans but Eye-ran and Eye-raq...

quesera 2 hours ago | parent [-]

There's no reason for Italy and Iran/Iraq to be pronounced similarly. (Cf Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Idaho?)

But FWIW, the EYE-rack thing is because GWB (most prominently, but others before and after) intentionally mispronounced the name of the country, in a "real american" kind of way, and also to annoy SAD-dumb Hussein as a kind of "we're stupid but we're going to kill you anyway" kind of psyop. Or maybe just "we disrespect you in advance of killing you"?

Americans of other political persuasions usually pronounce the names correctly.

esseph an hour ago | parent [-]

I've lived in over a dozen states and I've never heard either called anything other than EYE-(ran/raq) in conversation.

The extremely, I mean extremely rare occasion when someone pronounces it differently on TV, it's almost like they get side-eyed by other people as trying to "talk fancy".

quesera 40 minutes ago | parent [-]

Well, I've lived in four states in the last 20 years.

Anecdotally, the pronunciation popularity has split neatly along statewide-prominent political lines. For my four example states, three were correct/respectful, and one wrong/disrespectful.

Correct pronunciation has also had an inverse correlation with the rates of active/former military employment, which might be more directly indicative. And a positive correlation with education levels. So the answer is in there somewhere, I suspect.

National TV "news" programming might have a style guide which dictates pandering to the audience by speaking in real american, no matter how well-educated the hosts might be.

fulafel 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's a common pattern in HN headlines to assign agency to non-US continents and countries. We hear Europe and China doing stuff all the time as well. It's strange.

achierius 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Isn't that a good deal more reasonable though? China, as a polity, does indeed have agency. It's strange to suggest they don't, as if only America can do things on the world stage.

fulafel 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sure, the usages aren't all flawed. But it's far more likely to see "Europe" doing something than "US" doing something in the headlines in similar cases, I feel.

Same goes for China, if a couple of companies do something, often in the headline it's just the general "China" doing it. For example we'll see China doing something with EVs whereas for the US we'd see Tesla doing something with EVs.

speefers 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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hshdhdhj4444 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If someone attributed something to Europe but the only a handful of nations, which didn’t even include the largest ones, were engaging in the behavior, it would also be incorrect.

“Parts of Europe” or “Europe increasingly” etc would be ok (the latter if there was an expected progression of these policies to other European nations).

This headline is similarly misleading.

catlover76 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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graemep 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Europe usually is (inaccurately) used to mean the EU. Even if not, it never seems to include the biggest European country by land area and population (even if you count just the European part of it).

China is a country so what is the problem there.