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heraldgeezer 4 hours ago

What alternative to Intune and, hell, the entire Office 365 suite that it is in, do you have?

Gsuite + Slack I guess. lmao. As if that is better.

Looking forward to your reply.

pjc50 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

All the Linux kernel development work is organized around a mailing list, and some private IRC chats for the core people. It's the technology of the nineties but it works for them.

A lot of corporate stuff seems to be much worse than even a random vibe coded web app. I have to book holiday through something called "HR Connect", watching pages load laboriously and redirect every login through several very long URLs. Slowly.

heraldgeezer an hour ago | parent [-]

Yes, the Linux kernel people can be trusted to manage their own machines. Random corp employees cannot. Also corp machines are corp property, not the employees own. If you have 1000 or 10,000 machines you need to manage them. Full stop.

Yes, many corporate websites are bad. Like ERP or HR systems. None of that has to do with device management, RMMs/MDMs or Intune.

JonChesterfield 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well, all the machines in the current outfit are Linux as far as I know. Services are self hosted. Seems to be fine, teams et al run adequately in a browser for talking to people on other stacks.

Previous place had a corporate controlled windows laptop that made a very poor thin client for accessing dev machines. One before that had a somewhat centrally managed macbook that made a very poor thin client for accessing dev machines.

You don't have to soul bond to Microsoft to get things done.

Ekaros 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't see how Linux would prevent anything if company wants similar controls on their machines. Like tracking update status, forcing updates when needed, potentially wiping entire device when stolen and so on. Fault really is not the OS but the control corporate wants over their devices. And it does make some sense.

pjc50 an hour ago | parent [-]

Indeed. You'd expect a corporate IT system to be able to ssh as root into all their devices. And the cloud is even worse: if you get hold of the right IAM role, you can simply delete everything! That does usually get locked behind proper 2FA, but it's not impossible to phish even experienced admins once in a while.

heraldgeezer an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

That is all well and good but how do you:

- Ensure the Linux machines are up-to-date and users are not just indefinitely postponing OS updates?

- Same as above but with programs/software

- How do you ensure correct settings configuration in terms of security? Say default browser, extensions, program access etc?

- Re-image or reinstall the OS when there are issues or PC handover to another employee? Manually with a USB stick?

This kind of control exists and is needed for Linux and MacOS too. RMM is not a Windows only thing...

The critics here see Intune but what if they used another RMM and they compromised another cloud RMM account? Same issue.