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SBCL: A Sanely-Bootstrappable Common Lisp (2008) [pdf](research.gold.ac.uk)
48 points by pabs3 4 hours ago | 23 comments
praptak 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

SBCL seems pretty actively developed. A proposal for coroutines implementation appeared recently and AFAIK it is being actively discussed and improved upon.

TurboHaskal 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

And arena support, and a parallel GC... there's always something exciting and promising coming up.

The proprietary implementations are also quite good.

pjmlp 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

To note that you will find arena like stuff on old Lisps, like those from Xerox, TI and Genera.

geospeck 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you have a link to the proposal and the discussion? I am quite interested to see the implementation details. Thanks!

praptak 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's on the devel mailing list: https://sourceforge.net/p/sbcl/mailman/sbcl-devel/thread/CAF...

Antibabelic 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Here's an SBCL coroutines talk at the European Lisp Symposium from 2024: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2nVKfYJykw

praptak 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, so I believe that this proposal kind of petered out at proof of concept phase but the author of the one being discussed references it.

atgreen an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm the author. https://atgreen.github.io/repl-yell/posts/sbcl-fibers/

larsbrinkhoff an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Jonathan Blow: "It’s about a compiler written in Python FFS."

phtrivier an hour ago | parent [-]

Missing the joke here. The pdf if about a Common Lisp compiler, written in Common Lisp, C, and assembly for good measure.

Antibabelic 44 minutes ago | parent [-]

https://x.com/Jonathan_Blow/status/2028906867368550563

larsbrinkhoff 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

https://x.com/Jonathan_Blow/status/2028903268265672728

krishSingaria 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I am learning scheme(dr racket), which is i think derived from lisp, what is this actually used for and do people build anything with lisp???

pjmlp 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, people do build anything with Lisp, that is why there are at least two commercial Common Lisp systems around, LispWorks and Allegro Common Lisp.

Google Flights is an acquisition of a company using Lisp, ITA Software, they even have a Lisp guide.

https://google.github.io/styleguide/lispguide.xml

In Portugal, Siscog used to be a Lisp shop, no idea nowadays.

Then you have the Clojure based companies, where Datomic and Nubank are two well known ones, even if not a proper Lisp, still belongs to the same linage.

vindarel 11 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Examples with screenshots: http://lisp-screenshots.org/

Some companies: https://github.com/azzamsa/awesome-lisp-companies/ (Routific, Google's ITA Software, SISCOG running resource planning in transportation, trading, big data analysis, cloud-to-cloud services, open-source tools (pgloader, re-written from Python), games (Kandria, on Steam and GOG, runs on the Switch), music composition software and apps…

More success stories: https://www.lispworks.com/success-stories/

I myself run web-apps and scripts for clients. Didn't ditch Django yet but working on that.

mapcars an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I used a few different lisps for pet projects and honestly today for me the biggest problem of lisps is the typing. ADTs (and similar systems) are just super helpful when it comes to long term development, multiple people working on code, big projects or projects with multiple pieces (like frontend+backend) and it helps AI tools as well.

And this in not something lisps explored much (is there anything at all apart from Racket/typed dialect?), probably due to their dynamic nature. And this is why I dropped lisps in favour of Rust and Typescript.

vindarel 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

+1 to explore Coalton. It's also talked about on this website and often by its authors.

Links to Coalton and related libraries and apps (included Lem editor's mode and a web playground): https://github.com/CodyReichert/awesome-cl/#typing

brabel 42 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

You can run Coalton on Common Lisp. It has a type system similar to Haskell’s. And interops very well with pure Common Lisp. It also modernizes function and type names in the process so it makes Lisp more familiar to modern developers. I tried it in a small project and was impressed.

atgreen an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This very website that you are using right now, Hacker News, runs on sbcl.

tmountain an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Often as a DSL (domain specific language) for extending applications at runtime and/or configuration. I wouldn't start a "serious" project in Lisp today; meaning, a project with investment behind it, but Lisp can be a real joy to work with, and I've used Clojure for countless hobby projects. Clojure, in particular, has lots of deployments around the tech industry, and it's the foundation of the Jepsen DB test suite, Datomic (an immutable DB), and Metabase, as a few examples. Walmart has a non-trivial amount of Clojure running in prod as well.

Keyframe an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

*I am learning scheme(dr racket), which is i think derived from lisp*

it _is_ Lisp. Namely lisp-1, vs what one would consider lisp like common lisp would be lisp-2. Difference mostly being that in lisp-1 everything's in single namespace, whereas lisp-2 has more. So, in scheme you cannot have a function and a variable have the same name. In common lisp you can. Other diffs being (syntactically) passing functions and executing them. There are other things, of course, but not that big of a deal. Scheme is simpler and suitable for teaching / getting into lispen. I'd argue it might also be a rather well-equipped DSL.

bitwize an hour ago | parent [-]

"Emacsen" I can understand by analogy with plural forms like "oxen". "Lispen" is new to me.

mkreis an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Scheme is mostly used for teaching, but there are many production applications out there written in Lisp (Emacs for example). Also I'd like to mention Clojure, which is "lispy" and used by big cooperations.