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trebligdivad 5 hours ago

Note that this change is not getting rid of the Lords; it's just getting rid of Hereditary piers - i.e. those passed down through generations. We'll still have Lords who have been selected by previous governments within their lifetime; so they still provide that speed bump; but do it in a way that means they were at some point chosen by an elected body.

hunterpayne 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Not sure how you think this will improve things. None of these people are elected. They likely got these positions by doing political favors. They are likely even more out of touch with the electorate. They are even more likely to make decisions based upon ideology instead of practical quality of life considerations. Seems to me this just centralizes power even more in the hands of a few. And that's the last thing the UK needs right now.

Nursie 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> They are likely even more out of touch with the electorate.

Not compared to the hereditary peers.

In theory these people have proved themselves useful in some way and bring expertise to the upper chamber, rather than just being born in the right family. In practice there is some of that and some political cronyism.

> Seems to me this just centralizes power even more in the hands of a few.

That is exactly what hereditary peerage is. The few, by definition. The aristocracy.

dotancohen 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You argue that a lot of things are likely. Why don't you take the time to check instead of slander?