If they are paying them 6-month severances like Block did, this means they are effectively saying 1,600 people for 6-months wouldn't have fixed JIRA's usability and performance, which if they could have done like many have been begging, they'd would probably make more money long-term than this firing would save.

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dozerly 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I wholeheartedly believe that they could not have fixed it with 9,600 people months of work. They haven’t been able to fix it with many multiples of that.

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Octoth0rpe 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> They haven’t been able to fix it with many multiples of that.

which may actually be the problem. I suspect that there is actually some ideal ratio that could be calculated of Input Fields / Dev, LoC / Devs, or maybe Unique Pages / Dev, or some mix of all of the above. Some of the metrics I hear out of places like airbnb absolutely blow my mind (>5000 engineers! wtaf are they all doing?!?). I can sort of see the #s at google, MS making sense given the breadth of the problems they are solving, but other places, not so much.

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ShinTakuya 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You're assuming performance has been the core priority, or even a priority at all, and I think this is a bad assumption to make. I would estimate a much smaller number of people-months of work if I were you.

Dev users assume the only problem a product can solve is performance, when there is a lot more than that in reality.

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		Maybe in the past companies wouldn’t take the extra time for performance enhancements - but they’re apparently saying that AI is sooo good and speeds up work that they don’t need all of these extra people. So if their product was sped up it would enable their customers to work faster and lay off all of their extra employees (or just keep everyone and just do more stuff faster). So are they doing this to make the product better or, as others have mentioned, they can’t innovate further and can’t grow their market so they need to cut costs.

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fyrn_ 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They need to just clean slate start from skratch. I don't believe that code base can be saved. AI means it's easy to copy any SAAS now right? so should be easy /s

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paxys an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A lot of problems (I’d say the majority in tech) can be solved faster and better by 100 people than 1600.

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ddoottddoott 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean probably not. It's not 1,400 hardcore engineers and 200 Jony Ives being let go, it's a mix of everyone including randoms like HR and the person who orders the office coffee. Business is not good.

Okay I just wrote an "it's not, it's..." organically, is this the zeitgeist or what.