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appreciatorBus 6 hours ago

The prompt & any follow-ups do have notable effects, but IMO this just means that most of actual meaning you wanted to convey is in those prompts. If I was your interlocutor, I'd understand you & your ideas better if you posted your prompts as well as (or instead of) whatever the LLM generated.

xpe 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> The prompt & any follow-ups do have notable effects, but IMO this just means that most of actual meaning you wanted to convey is in those prompts.

If you mean in the sense of differentiating meaning from the base model, I take your point. But in another sense, using GPT-OSS 120b as example where the weights are around 60 GB and my prompt + conversation are e.g. under 10K, what can we say? One central question seems to be: how many of the model's weights were used to answer the question? (This is an interesting research question.)

> If I was your interlocutor, I'd understand you & your ideas better if you posted your prompts as well as (or instead of) whatever the LLM generated.

Indeed, yes, this is a good practice for intellectual honesty when citing an LLM. It does make me wonder though: are we willing to hold human accounts to the same standard? Some fields and publications encourage authors to disclose conflicts of interest and even their expected results before running the experiments, in the hopes of creating a culture of full disclosure.

I enjoy real human connection much more than LLM text exchanges. But when it comes to specialized questions, I seek any sources of intelligence that can help: people, LLMs, search engines, etc. I view it as a continuum that people can navigate thoughtfully.

appreciatorBus 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> how many of the model's weights were used to answer the question? (This is an interesting research question.)

That’s not the point. Every one of your conversation partners has the same access to the full 60 GB weights as you do. The only things you have to offer that your conversation partners don’t already have are your own thoughts. Post your prompts.

> I enjoy real human connection much more than LLM text exchanges. But when it comes to specialized questions, I seek any sources of intelligence that can help: people, LLMs, search engines, etc. I view it as a continuum that people can navigate thoughtfully.

We are all free to navigate that continuum thoughtfully when we are not in conversation with another human, who is expecting that they are talking to another human.

If you believe that LLM conversation is better, that’s great. I’m sure there’s a social media network out there featuring LLMs talking to other LLMs. It’s just not this one.