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alecco 15 hours ago

But the "Anthropic fight" is mostly fake. Palantir was using Claude as base model. Anthropic allegedly took issue with unsupervised kills because the technology wasn't ready (or something along the lines).

Also, I remember reading this guy has close ties to Anthropic. Also, I find it suspicious how he came to prominence out of nowhere. Like Big Tech and the establishment are propping podcasts of controlled narrative/opposition. I don't buy any of it.

mips_avatar 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

He's roommates with an Anthropic researcher, I was roommates with a Google product manager I don't think I'm really bought out by Google.

iso-logi 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

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pibaker 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't know GP's situation. But in the case of the linked article, given anthropic's tie to the Bay Area "rationalist" community, one possible reason why the author has a roommate is he bought in to the rationalist "group house" culture and moved in with one of them.

linkregister 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Product managers aren't management. They manage the trajectory of a software initiative. They can be hired straight out of college.

Rents in the San Francisco Bay area are too high to live a practical distance from job centers as a junior without roommates.

etrautmann 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What? Plenty of people prefer to live with roommates, especially in the bay.

Henchman21 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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Analemma_ 12 hours ago | parent [-]

It is literally impossible to prove a negative, that’s how conspiracy thinking operates and it’s why fortunately the justice system operates on the opposite principle and requires proof of guilt.

It’s true that in some circumstances we require avoiding even the appearance of impropriety or a conflict of interest, but that’s simply too large a burden to impose on everyone all of the time, especially for allegedly dire sins like “having a roommate who works for a Google”

chrsw 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Bought out, bought in. Is the distinction important?

dang 7 hours ago | parent [-]

mips_avatar is describing neither.

rustyhancock 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Also Anthropic has made very clear they align closely with the DoW.

Really Anthropic doesn't seem to be fighting for anyone but a narrow subset of people.

So who cares, none of the but AI providers are particularly ethical. Pick your poison as your conscious and needs allow.

nipponese 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In my view, this guy's podcast didn't get big talking about AI, it's best known for cold war history and foreign policy discussions with Sarah Paine of the U.S. Naval War College.

bblcla 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Dwarkesh definitely got big in Silicon Valley from his AI podcasts. He's one of the few people who can get famous researchers on and also have them say something genuinely new.

After that, he become well-known to the general public through his Sarah Paine podcasts (which are excellent).

piyh 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>I find it suspicious how he came to prominence out of nowhere

He was first funded by FTX

alecco 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Holy rabbit hole.

SBF was in Patel's previous podcast in July 2022 and FTX unraveled in November 2022. Hmm.

https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/sbf

> I flew to the Bahamas to interview Sam Bankman-Fried, the CEO of FTX! He talks about FTX’s plan to infiltrate traditional finance, giving $100m this year to AI + pandemic risk, scaling slowly + hiring A-players, and much more.

And that was right in the middle of FTX being accused by many prominent people .

April 29, 2022 https://x.com/AlderLaneEggs/status/1520023221294145536

June 20, 2022 https://x.com/MartyBent/status/1538645746655936519

lioeters 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Grifters gonna grift, and this one is well-connected.

cuuupid 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's entirely fake, sure Palantir uses Claude, but it takes about 10 minutes to pull all their federal contracts and realize the little involvement they have in the kill chain is preliminary

observationist 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It doesn't matter what you know so much as who you know. Networking is the most precious currency. He met the right people, got the right guests, and surfed a wave of fortunate occurrences. He was roommates with Dylan Patel of TheIjnformation, and John Y of Asionometry, and has since developed a wide range of high level industry contacts.

Sometimes people succeed without earning it, and what matters is what they do with the success afterwards. I'd say Dwarkesh earned it, but got lucky and caught the right waves, and has surfed the hell out of his success. He's had consistently well informed, level headed takes, and has engaged the field with insight and honest curiousity.

When I see people surf like that, I applaud it. There's nothing grifty or shady, he's just had a great series of excellent opportunities and has played them for everything they're worth. Once he had a few billionaires on, that was all the social cache he needed to continue attracting guests and high level researchers and other figures in AI.

latchkey 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Dylan Patel of TheIjnformation

SemiAnalysis

observationist 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Sorry, my bad. Getting hard to keep track, there are so many adjacent sources, lol.

latchkey 8 hours ago | parent [-]

No sorry, it is ok. I wrote a whole article on the guy and his grift, so I'm pretty well aware of things.

https://jon4hotaisle.substack.com/p/influence-as-a-service-s...

alecco 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I might be old, but he strikes me as a shallow valley Bro. His CV has nothing of significance. But he had a lot of Big Tech guests and even that Navy intelligence woman. He got a boost by being endorsed by Bezos. It smells of BS to me. Again, maybe I'm just a grumpy greybeard and this is a Gen Z thing.

observationist 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm also a grumpy greybeard - but I've got nothing but respect for him grinding out some good podcasts and then being in the right place and right time to capitalize on connections. I see a lot of skepticism directed his way, but I view it as a lot like early dotcom winners. Catch the right wave and it's like winning the lottery, success far beyond what you'd normally be able to reach, and then you get the opportunity to show whether you can keep it or not. I appreciate a good success story, and it's awesome to see people win by catching a wave, and then hold on to it, showing that they can keep doing it at a higher level.

linkregister 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When it comes to the acumen of running a podcast, he excels beyond his peers. He hosts interesting guests. He researches their area of expertise meticulously and asks erudite questions. The show is well edited.

It is not unusual that a young person would succeed at performance occupations. A huge portion of the Top 40 pop songs are performed by people under 27.

newyankee 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The algorithm rewards those guests who follow the trends, he rose the wave to be at the top very fast and now possibly has the leverage where the who's who in AI have to be on his podcast to broadcast their views

Readerium 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes he is room-mates with.

cushychicken 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Love the interviews Dwarkesh sponsored with Sarah Paine from the Naval War College.

Also, somewhat spitefully, find it funny that he has multiple roommates.

alecco 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Those ones were a bit on the nose, no?

_diyar 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

How so? I enjoyed them, keeping in mind that the lecturer was a professor at a US naval war college.

alecco 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Would you like to know MORE?

randallsquared 13 hours ago | parent [-]

You are pattern matching to something that doesn't really fit, I think.

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cushychicken 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not sure what you mean, but I’d never heard of Sarah Paine before that. I thought she gave a very concise yet nuanced view of the modern world order in her lectures for Dwarkesh.

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brandall10 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm assuming he's in some sort of high-end communal housing, a trend that began emerging in SF ~15 years back ... ie. where multi-millionaire startup founders and the like choose it on purpose for the synergistic benefits.

serguzest 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It seems to me that AI target-selection systems are being used not just for efficiency, but as a way to distance military staff from responsibility for what they are killing. Current AI models naturally speculate and hallucinate if you don’t tightly constrain them. we see this all the time as software engineers when working with agentic coding.

This creates a dangerous dynamic. AI can generate targets that a human operator might not be able to justify manually, and when something goes wrong the blame can always be shifted to the system, such as the recent incident where roughly 180 children were killed due to faulty targeting.

Israel’s way of fighting this war looks more like pure destruction than a conventional military campaign, and AI systems like this are very easy to abuse in that context. At this point it’s clear that even the U.S. is willing to eliminate targets even when the collateral damage includes the person’s family or neighbors. I don’t think that would have been acceptable in previous administrations. Israel has lowered the bar.

That may be why Anthropic moved early to denounce this kind of usage, even though they had previously partnered with the Department of War.

Now let’s look at the statements made by Anthropic and Hegseth:

https://www.anthropic.com/news/where-stand-department-war

https://x.com/SecWar/status/2027507717469049070

From Anthropic’s own statement, we hear that they have actually been quite closely partnered. In Hegseth’s tweet we see:

“Anthropic will continue to provide the Department of War its services for a period of no more than six months to allow for a seamless transition to a better and more patriotic service.”

This shows that Anthropic is still currently being actively used by the Department of War.

My view is that Anthropic and its investors eventually realized that the American war machine will use their technology in reckless ways, and that this will certainly create a massive PR disaster or, in an ideal world, even legal consequences. That realization likely pushed them to adopt what they now frame as a more “humanitarian” position.