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gavinray 9 hours ago

Why would anyone work there, then, unless that's the only place they could get hired as a dev?

And if the latter is the case, then that sort of stamps the case closed from the get-go...

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dmbche 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Great money?

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ng12 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

According to levels the pay band caps out around $250k and a principal title. It's good but probably not enough for most to put up with the culture long term.

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john_strinlai 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>[...] the pay band caps out around $250k [...] probably not enough for most [...]

an absolutely wild statement to 99.9+% of the world

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anonMcKinsey 5 hours ago | parent [-]

99.9% of the world doesn't live in the US with a 4.0 GPA from a top ten university.

They're not very bright, most of them. But they're very hard workers and high achievers. They stay for the resume candy or the health care.

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john_strinlai 5 hours ago | parent [-]

>[...] US with a 4.0 GPA from a top ten university. They're not very bright, most of them.

the top students from the top ten universities in the US produce... mostly not very bright people?

this is getting even stranger to the rest of us plebians. sometimes i am left in awe of how different my world is from some of you here

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anonMcKinsey 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"US produce... mostly not very bright people?"

The top universities are not setup to mold intellectually rigorous and curious people. It's setup to make hard working, and increasingly sycophant men.

My lab mate is a former drug addict with two years of art school. Easily more intellectually curious than anyone I met at McKinsey.

	▲	cindyllm 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
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keybored 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How different the world is? But your credentials worship fits right in with this community.

Ideologically aligned if nothing else.

Well we can all at least imagine being some 4.0 Ivy League dude who only interacts with 4.0 Ivy League dudes. He’s not going to think that everyone he interacts with range from merely brilliant to the most studious-enlightened hardworking top of the morning fellow (or whatever adjectives to use). He’s gonna think that some of them are idiots. It’s only human.

	▲	john_strinlai 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		>But your credentials worship fits right in with this community. worship is an extremely strong word for a one-sentence casual comment. but yeah, by default i will file anyone with a 4.0 from a top 10 school in the "brighter than me" category. is that worship?
	▲	anonMcKinsey 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I was a B/B- student from a foreign top 100 university. I don't know how I got accepted to a top 5 engineering school in the US. I accepted and ended my PhD with a 3.3. Im not very bright or hardworking. What did I see at the university? Very hard working people. Very interesting research. Very shallow knowledge outside a narrow domain expertise. These are the folks McKinsey hires... but these shallow thinkers are sent on 6 week projects for companies in industry they hadn't even heard before. Once, no one in the team knew what product CompanyX sold... CompanyX is a a top tier multinational consumer product brand that routinely sponsors sports events, including TV ads.

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dahcryn 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

When you get to partner level, you also get profit sharing on top of you salary.

Partners get 300-400k and senior partners get closer to 600-800

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cmiles8 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not really relative to broader options in tech. The big money goes to the consulting leaders, but most of these folks look like glorified grifters more and more as time goes on.

Ultimately AI may be a big threat to the sort of “advisory” work McKinsey historically focused on.

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anonMcKinsey 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not really when you normalize by hours you are expected to work. You're also surrounded by spineless sycophantic keeners without an original thought in their heads who would throw you off the building for a good review.

It reminds me of Lewis' "National Institute for Co-ordinated Experiments"

The health care is amazing, though. $30/mo for a family $900 deductible? Something like that. If you have a sick family member it's a no brainer.