| ▲ | nomdep 5 hours ago |
| I think this comment is substantially more informative than the article itself: https://newatlas.com/environment/5-200-holes-peruvian-mounta... Each hole is constructed- dug out and lined with rock.
These are not mining holes, nor used to store things.
If you want to store stuff, you would put these pits
along the bottom of the hill, not running a long distance
up the hill.
They tried to keep the lines somewhat straight, crossing
gullies. I can't guess what valid use they might have had,
other than religious. They seem pointless.
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| ▲ | fusslo 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I wonder why the commenter discounts the idea that they were used to store things. Especially since the article gives evidence that things were stored in the holes: "Hole soil analysis also found ancient pollens of maize – a key staple in the Andes – and reeds traditionally used for basket-making. In addition to this, there were traces of squash, amaranth, cotton, chili peppers and other crops that haven't been farmed on the arid land where Monte Sierpe sits. Because many of these plants produce little airborne pollen, it's unlikely they settled in the holes naturally." |
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| ▲ | jasonwatkinspdx 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah, they're just assuming that if you wanted to store something you'd store it at the bottom of the hill. While I'm no archeologist/anthropologist, I have seen an ancient grainery near the green river in Utah. It was about an hour long very steep half hike half rock scramble to get up to the ledge where it was at. So maybe ancient people had reasons to put storage sites in more difficult to access locations. | | |
| ▲ | throwup238 an hour ago | parent [-] | | It’s actually pretty common to store food at higher elevations in the historical and archaeological record, including among the Incas (but mostly in qollqas). More wind at higher elevations means less moisture, which is the biggest factor in preservation. There are plenty of examples from every era, stretching from ancient Minoans to 20th century Berbers. |
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| ▲ | rdtsc 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Especially since the article gives evidence that things were stored in the holes They explain it as these holes are at the top of the mountain. Why climb the large mountain to store your grain there just to have haul it back down later? My own guess answers: safer from animals, precipitation, safe from enemies. Storing in general could mean different things: putting baskets with grain and produce there for a minute and them someone else immediately pick it up in some bartering exchange, it's not really storing then, I guess? Or, even religious offerings can also be explained as "storing" -- they are stored in there until the "gods" (i.e. elements) destroy them (i.e. consume them) and the gods are appeased, that way ensuring good harvests and other benefits. | | |
| ▲ | jcims an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | >Why climb the large mountain to store your grain there just to have haul it back down later? Yes and after going on a trip to Machu Picchu a few years ago, the locals don't seem to feel gravity quite the same way most of us do these days. There was a gal on our 4 day hike that got hit pretty hard with altitude sickness a day in. A local porter about her size carried her on his shoulders for the rest of the trip, in flip flops, and the only reason he stayed back with our slow asses was so she could talk to her husband along the way. It's the most visceral experience I've had in the levels upon levels of human capability. Really wild to see in person. Also Peru is phenomenal. | |
| ▲ | conductr 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Could also be a form of refrigeration if crops were grown in the valley but benefited by cooler temp storage at higher altitudes Likewise it could have been snow/ice farming to have it available into the summer. Not sure what the weather was like here that long ago but it’s another angle to explore. |
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| ▲ | MisterTea 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | My first explanation would be offerings. The rarity of those crops in the area would mean they were more valuable and therefor likely to be used as offerings. edit: Or heck, maybe they wanted to keep it away from wildlife or invaders. | |
| ▲ | deathanatos an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Why wouldn't you spread out, though, instead of working in basically a line? (At least, as much as topography reasonably allows.) That way, your travel distance to any particular item increases at like sqrt(stuff), instead of just linearly. | | |
| ▲ | fusslo an hour ago | parent [-] | | yeah, I've been thinking about that since I read the article! I'm wondering if the line goes along the crest of the hill, so it's basically as wide as the crest is. But there's still, why 7-8 holes wide, and why are there some groups... lots of questions to think about! |
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| ▲ | pants2 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Religion always seems like the default explanation for anything without an obvious use and it seems lazy. Maybe it was a game, a rite of passage, a boundary marker, or perhaps there was a Peruvian Mr. Beast running a competition. Anyone else remember the Cards Against Humanity "Holiday Hole"? |
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| ▲ | AyyEye 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | We always want to pretend that we're better and more evolved than those knuckle draggers of ages past -- simply because someone else made a computer for us to use. | | | |
| ▲ | jasonwatkinspdx 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Religion always seems like the default explanation for anything without an obvious use and it seems lazy. This is one of the bits I remember from reading A Canticle for Leibowitz as a kid. It's about monks in a post nuclear armageddon world. At one point they find an ancient fallout shelter with a bathroom, and they interpret it as a spiritual space where a priest would sit on the "throne" and read "holy scrolls" held by the metal bar next to the throne... I think we make that kind of mistake when doing armchair archeology or anthropology a lot. | | | |
| ▲ | stevenwoo 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | We can only speculate on evidence we have. The prehistoric chubby dolls (Venus figurines) from archaeological digs that many hypothesized to be fertility totems can be hypothesized to be just idealized symbols of female form as the shape changed depending upon the average temperature - ice age meant fatter dolls, temperate times meant thinner dolls.
https://www.sciencealert.com/the-mystery-of-the-enigmatic-ve... |
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| ▲ | pbhjpbhj 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Here's my hypothesis from ignorance: I don't know much about South America but understand that they freeze dry potatoes on high slopes? Perhaps they dry best in these holes, the community built them together, like building an oven or kiln, the regularity and sections of 50 holes allow to track whose produce is where; and maybe you sell them on at the same time. Or, how about ice collection - each hole gets filled with water/snow, it freezes, the lumps are the right size for carrying back to an ice hole. Maybe they can slide them down the slope like a historical ice-cube dispenser. |
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| ▲ | lukan 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| "If you want to store stuff, you would put these pits
along the bottom of the hill, not running a long distance
up the hill." Unless you want more favorable conditions for long term storing, or in case a enemy comes and blunders what is easily avaiable at the bottom of the hill. |
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| ▲ | throaskjdsakn 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| ChromeXX January 1, 2026 10:38 AM It's safe to say, since it's been proven these holes exist all over the Amazon, that they were created to catch or divert animals, to keep them from reaching their village. After finding the normal route of the animals and their crossings, the holes were possibly dug to confuse the animals and funnel them into the small foot traffic areas to be caught and killed - whether for food or to control their travel. If it would stop humans from wanting to traverse the land, animals wouldn't want to either. Also, I see "scientists" make this mistake over and over; the lay of the land now is not what it was back then, and large ravines that are there now may have been lush with greenery and completely flat. Earthquakes and landslides could have completely changed the overall landscape by now too. |
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| ▲ | idiotsecant 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Greentext name, bold unfounded claims, 'scientists' in smug quotes. Troll, arrow down and move on. | | |
| ▲ | throaskjdsakn 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | twenty XD faces because im not smart enough to satirize actual morons because i am one its another comment from parents link |
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| ▲ | pinkmuffinere 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > It's safe to say, since it's been proven these holes exist all over the Amazon, that they were created to catch or divert animals, to keep them from reaching their village Are you serious? There's an absolutely massive logical leap from [these holes exist all over the Amazon] -> [they were created to catch or divert animals]. Do you have some other evidence to argue in favor of this? | | |
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| ▲ | grosswait 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The latest theory is a marketplace. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/11/251110021048.h... |
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| ▲ | conductr 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > “Dug out” My initial thought was these were probably “drilled out” probably with an animal walking in circles, almost like a horse walker but with a drill bit attachment |