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Joker_vD 3 hours ago

> You have to give your name, and they know if you've voted more than once at that station that day.

So you go to other stations, duh. It's called "carousel voting" [0], if done on a large, organized scale.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carousel_voting

alistairSH 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Limit voters to one polling location. Problem solved.

That's what we do in the US. You are assigned a polling location based on your home address. You can't vote anywhere else. If you try, they turn you away.

You can do a provisional ballot (for people who recently moved, and poll data isn't updated, etc) and they validate your ID/address/etc later.

jfengel 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And in Russia, it is. That's why they call it "карусель".

In the United States, it hasn't been. The article you link to doesn't even mention the United States. To do it on a large scale requires cooperation from the people running the election, and the US isn't (yet) that corrupt.

The US system isn't completely robust against it, and perhaps some day it will be a problem. But right now there is no evidence that it is a problem, and all of the attempts to "fix" it are clearly aimed at preventing some people from voting.

_whiteCaps_ 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Interesting. In Canada, for federal elections at least, you're assigned to a specific location and station. You can't vote anywhere else. There's a separate process for mail in ballots to confirm you didn't vote in advanced voting or on election day as well.

jfengel 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Same in the US.

You can try voting again at other stations, especially since they don't require ID. You just need the name of somebody assigned to that station, who hasn't already voted. There is a signature check if there is a suspicion, but that's rarely done.

But that's practically never done. The risks are too high, and to have a significant impact would require enough votes to make it certain you'd get caught.

cj 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

At least in NY, you would have to know the name of someone else assigned to the 2nd polling site, since your name is only on the list of 1 polling location?

drstewart 3 hours ago | parent [-]

This is of course a very high bar to clear, as data such as people's names is highly confidential and almost impossible to get unless you're any one of these 750+ data brokers: https://privacyrights.org/data-brokers

alistairSH 3 hours ago | parent [-]

You'd also need a fake ID. And be willing to risk a felony conviction to add a single vote. It just doesn't happen here, despite the GOP trying to prove otherwise for decades.

MC995 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> You'd also need a fake ID

For what? In my state there's no requirement to show ID. When I first moved here I attempted to show mine at the poll and the poll worker told me to quickly put that away and she didn't want to see it. I'm not even sure it's legal for them to ask for ID here, given her panicked reaction to me trying to show it.

Since then I've voted in this state for around 10 years and it's always the same. I could say I'm whoever I want, and just be given a ballot.

Edit: I don't live in NY either, as the other poster used as an example. ID should be an obvious and necessary requirement, but it isn't in many states.

alistairSH an hour ago | parent [-]

Yeah, it's inconsistent between states. I'm in VA and an ID is required. Despite being a bleeding heart liberal, I'm ok with that safe-guard (despite much of the left being against the notion). I'd also prefer an actual national ID (not the half-baked RealID programs, which some states still haven't adopted).

trelane 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I've only ever seen one time it was tried. The experiment was wildly successful: https://www.nationalreview.com/2014/01/voter-fraud-weve-got-...

alistairSH an hour ago | parent [-]

Looks like those were in states that don't require ANY ID to vote, which I find ridiculous, so I guess we agree. I live in VA, we require ID, so the problem shown in NY shouldn't be possible.

And again, you still have to be willing to commit a felony to move the needly by ONE vote, which is not likely to be very common. The risk/reward simply isn't there.

orthoxerox 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It only works if the people working at the polling station are in on it, because you can't normally get an absentee ballot more than once.