| ▲ | efficax 4 hours ago |
| Calling this a "content consumption" device seems wrong to me. Sure, it's not a professional laptop. You're going to have a bad time trying to run more than one Adobe creative suite app at once, or running the iOS emulator, but the chip in it is very powerful, and you can do real work on this laptop. I was even thinking of snagging one to use as a kind of thin client for dev accessing my big linux box via tailscale. It might be worthwhile to ensure that a web app you're developing will work on a less powerful machine without killing the browser, for example. |
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| ▲ | nottorp 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| If you ask me, all web devs should be forced to work on 4 Gb machines. This way you'll be able to run more than one "web app" at the same time on your devices. |
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| ▲ | whynotmaybe 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Should be forced to Test on a 4gb machine. A few years ago, I had two computers on my desk, my beefy dev with double screens and some good specs for the time and my test machine which was the standard given to every non dev, with a 1024x768 screen. I couldn't say to the boss that the code was ready until I tested it on that machine, which was sometimes eye opening and why a 2Mb HTML page wasn't a good idea. | |
| ▲ | MarsIronPI 33 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I agree, but it's nice to be able to run LLMs locally on my laptop. LLMs are actually the only reason I'm looking to upgrade my 2013 hardware. | |
| ▲ | mrbonner 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Hah. When I worked for a very big Just Print Money bank circa 2008, they gave me, a SDE with the Lenovo ThinkPads running Windows with 4GB of RAM and a bonus of Lotus Notes for email. This thing was slower than molasses. Not to mention because we had an offshore team in India. every morning every engineer would begin the day with syncing the Subversion repo. My team was in central US but we had to connect to a proxy in NYC for network traffic inspection. This makes the sync over 45 minutes long. Repeat the same for every SDE, from both sides of the world, and you can guess the amount of time wasted. I don’t think I would want to work in that environment anymore. | |
| ▲ | ivanjermakov an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I like to imagine the gaming landscape if developers were forced to work on 5yr old hardware. | | |
| ▲ | nottorp an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Sometimes I have the feeling AAAs can be better optimized than Unity based indies. It's probably a bit better than when Unity was new. I do remember the first x-com remake in 2012 was lasting longer on battery than $random_unity_indie. | |
| ▲ | extrabajs an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | You mean like consoles? | | |
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| ▲ | dangus 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That's dumb. You can hardly even buy a machine with 4GB of memory on sale, at any price. If you are making products that depend on people spending money on them, you generally don't have to care about broke people with 15 year old computers. | | |
| ▲ | sonofhans 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I must say, the irony of this comment in a thread about Apple moving down-market without losing quality is … well, it burns. Along with the arrogance: “Anyone who can’t afford 8GB isn’t worthy of being my customer,” is literally the opposite of what Steve Jobs always said. I was stuck once in a cabin in the woods with an old Android phone. I’m glad it still worked, and that people curating software experiences for it had more empathy — and more business sense — than this comment displays. | |
| ▲ | BugsJustFindMe 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Not caring makes the world worse for everyone. All of us. Including you. | |
| ▲ | _dain_ 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | ebay |
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| ▲ | kccqzy 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > It might be worthwhile to ensure that a web app you're developing will work on a less powerful machine If that’s your goal this machine is still too powerful. Web apps generally care about single thread performance. The machine has a single thread performance that exceeds any and all Intel/AMD processors, according to Geekbench (A18 Pro: 3445; Ryzen 9 9950X: 3385). My own test for ensuring my web app performs well involves a machine less than half as fast, and my web app runs with all assertions turned on. |
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| ▲ | faitswulff 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There are multiple videos out there of reviewers running multiple “Pro” apps at the same time on the Neo. It’s an impressive machine. |
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| ▲ | nicole_express 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I can definitely see why the Asus CEO would want to put it in that box, though. |
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| ▲ | whycome 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I have a macbook pro m1 with 8gb ram and it has been surprisingly good for all kinds of work. And I've had it since about 2020. |
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| ▲ | whstl 43 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I have the same, and I probably won't get another that soon. I have used it for dev work daily for 6 years. |
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| ▲ | thesuitonym 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Content consumption definitely seems like the wrong term, it seems perfectly cromulent for let's say a college student, or an executive. |
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| ▲ | solarkraft 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It’s not even a less powerful device. It has the same performance as the M1, which is still a beast. |
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