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john_strinlai 6 hours ago

>Pergamon Press in 1951 (coincidentally founded by Ghislaine Maxwell's father)

perhaps a bit off-topic, but what is coincidental about this and/or what is the relevance of Ghislaine Maxwell here?

benterix 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's useless, but I'm ashamed to admit I found this tiny piece of trivia interesting.

readthenotes1 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Like the paywall blocking many scientific arti6, perhaps it would be best if we released also the Epstein Files?

bryanrasmussen 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I believe by saying it is coincidental they are saying there is probably no relevance, just an interesting piece of trivia, why put out this interesting piece of trivia? Because maybe someone will be able to make an argument of relevance.

pocksuppet 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It's more than coincidental, but tangential to the point. It shows crime runs in families.

tialaramex 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ghislaine's father (Robert Maxwell) was also a terrible person but for different reasons.

Robert Maxwell was a crook, he used pension funds (supposed to be ring-fenced for the benefit of the pensioners) to prop up his companies, so, after his slightly mysterious death it was discovered that basically there's no money to pay people who've been assured of a pension when they retire.

He was also very litigious. If you said he was a crook when he was alive you'd better hope you can prove it and that you have funding to stay in the fight until you do. So this means the sort of people who call out crooks were especially unhappy about Robert Maxwell because he was a crook and he might sue you if you pointed it out.

anonymars 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I imagine it's the interesting peculiarity that the same people seem to crop up over and over and over again. Six degrees of Kevin Bacon or something, except it's like one or two degrees. As George Carlin said, "it's a big club, and you ain't in it"

For example Donald Barr (father of twice-former US Attorney General Bill Barr) hiring college-dropout Jeffrey Epstein whilst headmaster at the elite Dalton School

Additional fun facts about Donald Barr: he served in US intelligence during WWII, and wrote a sci-fi book featuring child sex slaves

jl6 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Also the Epstein-Barr virus causes Mono, the clone of .NET, which was created by Bill Gates, known associate of Epstein, whose father was president of the Washington State Bar Association. And you know who else works in Washington? Join the dots, people.

Henchman21 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This might be my fav HN comment ever. Well done!

underlipton 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

We call people who make connections like these "conspiracy theorists," until they're right, at which point we call them "right". And somewhere in between, if they manage to get a job, we call them "Simpsons writers."

bartread 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you want to know more about the history of Pergamon Press there's a great Behind the Bastards episode on Robert Maxwell (Ghislaine Maxwell's father) - who himself was a scumbag in a variety of ways that were entirely distinct from Ghislaine Maxwell's brand of scumbaggery - that covers this. Might even be a multipart episode - it's a while since I've listened to it, but I have a feeling it's at least a two parter.

pessimizer 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"Coincidental" means random, with no causal connection being explicitly claimed. It just means that two things share some characteristic (such as being relatives.) The thing that is coincidental is that the person who founded the company being discussed is also the father of another person who current events have brought into prominence.

It's why you would say something like "more than coincidental" if you were trying to make some causal claim, like one thing causing the other, or both things coming from the same cause.

So, "What is coincidental about that?" is a weird question. It reads as a rhetorical claim of a causal connection through asking for a denial or a disproof of one.

john_strinlai an hour ago | parent | next [-]

sorry.

what is the relevance to the discussion about journals and peer review is my main question.

if i randomly mentioned that your name appears to be an alternate spelling of a 3-band active EQ guitar pedal, coincidentally sharing all of the letters except one, in my reply to you, most people would be confused. that is how i felt when randomly reading "Ghislaine Maxwell" in this context of journals and peer review.

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