Just join the right "communities" or else it might have very different results. A toxic community can exploit you (even if you make more value than you consume).

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sfink 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

True, creating value isn't sufficient. But if you're creating value, you don't need that community; that community needs you. That doesn't mean it'll be easy to leave nor that you won't lose a lot by doing so, but it's better than being a leech. Leeches can only survive by finding another victim to suck blood from, and at some point that merry-go-round is going to run out of horsies. Pardon the mixed metaphors.

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zelphirkalt an hour ago | parent [-]

Philosophically, I agree, but in reality there are so many leeches, who take take take, their whole life, and in the end they are often better off, materialistically than the people, who provided the actual value.

	▲	tasuki 19 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Ah but of course leeches are better off materialistically than the people who provide value! It's almost a tautology. But do you think they're happier? For example geohot could be vastly richer than he is if he wanted to. He wisely chooses not to, and advises others to do the same.

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fragmede 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"just"

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bayindirh 3 hours ago | parent [-]

As you know, you can just just do it. It's just that simple.

Fix: Forgot to add /s switch.

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fragmede 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The problem is, it's not. Communities are messy and complicated, and if you take the slightest whiff of toxicity as a sign to leave a community, you're soon going to find yourself without one.

	▲	bayindirh 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I know, the comment is meant to be ironic, actually. I was part of quite a few, and some rather large ones (~100 people). I don't leave communities easily, but if I decide to do it, I do it for good. However, I'd rather stay there and be myself. What I found is, when you act yourself and if the community is not for you, the community silently ousts you. Then you can just collect your bag and leave. No drama, no fight. However, most of the time, you can at least affect some of the people and motivate them to be better. Some bad people don't know that they are bad and have their hearts at the right place, so it's worth digging them up and let them improve by supporting them.