| ▲ | paganel 6 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> off work trees and running all the agents that I could afford, I still think that we, programmers, having to pay money in order to write code is a travesti. And I'm not talking about paying the license for the odd text editor or even for an operating system, I'm talking about day-to-day operations. I'm surprised that there isn't a bigger push-back against this idea. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | jeremyjh 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
What is strange about paying for tools that improve productivity? Unless you consider your own time worthless you should always be open to spending more to gain more. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | switchbak 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
My old work machine used power quite aggressively - I was happy to pay for that (and turn it off at night!). This seems even more directly valuable. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | eKIK 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Dw, there's quite a lot of push back against AI in some of the communities I hang around in. It's just rarely seldom visible here on HN. It's usually not about the price, but more about the fact that a few megacorps and countries "own" the ability to work this way. This leads to some very real risks that I'm pretty sure will materialize at some point in time, including but not limited to: - Geopolitical pressure - if some ass-hat of a president hypothetically were to decide "nuh uh - we don't like Spain, they're not being nice to us!", they could forbid AI companies to deliver their services to that specific country. - Price hikes - if you can deliver "$100 worth of value" per hour, but "$1000 worth of value" per hour with the help of AI, then provider companies could still charge up to $899 per hour of usage and it'd still make "business sense" for you to use them since you're still creating more value with them than without them. - Reduction in quality - I believe people who were senior developers _before_ starting to use AI assisted coding are still usually capable of producing high quality output. However every single person I know who "started coding" with tools like Claude Code produce horrible horrible software, esp. from a security p.o.v. Most of them just build "internal tools" for themselves, and I highly encourage that. However others have pursued developing and selling more ambitious software...just to get bitten by the fact that it's much more to software development than getting semi-correct output from an AI agent. - A massive workload on some open source projects. We've all heard about projects closing down their bug bounty programs, declining AI generated PRs etc. - The loss of the joy - some people enjoy it, some people don't. We're definitely still in the early days of AI assisted / AI driven coding, and no one really knows how it'll develop...but don't mistake the bubble that is HN for universal positivity and acclaim of AI in the coding space :). | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | xandrius 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
It's silly, who wouldn't answer yes to the question "would you like to finish your task faster?". The real trick is to produce more but by putting less effort than before. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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