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Spivak 13 hours ago

See this is why I think the whole age verification thing is backwards. If you want to create child friendly spaces then you need to verify someone's age is under 18, 16, 13 etc.. That's a way more real and tangible harm than a teenager looking at a nudie mag.

fc417fc802 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Please check this box to confirm that you do _not_ possess a government issued photo ID ...

Sorry, in order to use this service you will need to visit your local police station and have them verify that you are in fact a child ...

Yeah I'm not seeing how this is supposed to work. I don't think age verification solves very many real world problems. (It does mitigate some, such as alcohol consumption. Just not most.)

snackbroken 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>Yeah I'm not seeing how this is supposed to work

You could verify the ID of an adult who vouches for the child they are a legal guardian of. That way, if it turns out that Brayden(M12) is actually Linda(F45) you know who to send law enforcement to to ask some very pointed questions.

That said, I don't think online ID verification is effective and even if it was, it wouldn't be worth the level of mass privacy invasion. If your goal is actually to help kids who are victims of abuse, your efforts are much better spent elsewhere. For example: making child abuse report hotlines/websites more easily accessible and widely known, fixing social services so that they actually provide better help when requested instead of making things worse, better education for children about what is and is not OK behavior even from "trusted" adults, and how to get help from someone who isn't a relative when you need it. "Stranger danger" hysteria catches all the outrage and public discussion, but is the least common source of abuse.

eloisant 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Enforce parental control (with a verified adult account for the parent) for all child accounts.

The parent will input the real birthdate of their child, or it's their responsibility if the child encounters anything not age appropriate.

intrasight 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

For sure. But age verification protocols can handle such rules:

App to IdP: is this person 13-15

IdP: yes

fakedang 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Is Persona an IdP or does it request you to verify with personal information every single time?