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crazygringo 2 hours ago

If you want to reduce air travel for environmental reasons, then tax it more.

Shaming individuals doesn't seem to be productive or helpful.

Air travel works for people if the benefits outweigh the costs. The only thing that changes behavior is to change the costs.

And even if costs were 10x there are still plenty of people who will fly tons, because it would still be economically productive. There are always going to be people who fly 10x more than others, because certain jobs and roles simply require it.

lukakopajtic an hour ago | parent | next [-]

You wrote one of the solutions as if it conflicts with the other one.

Let's raise the tax on an activity according to its negative side effects, while pointing out individuals that do a lot of it and dont take personal responsibility.

gnfargbl 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Shaming individuals doesn't seem to be productive or helpful.

I don't see how much support from history for that viewpoint. Some examples of positive societal change driven in part by shaming individuals: drink-driving, civil rights, sexual harassment, automobile safety, the slave trade, McCarthyism.

eightys3v3n an hour ago | parent [-]

All those cases also have huge penalties or effective costs associated with them. Is there an accurate "shame first, then penalties came later" stand point?

Automobile safety in my life has only changed after fines. Sexual harrassment still happens and doesn't seem to be helped by shaming someone as much as firing them. Though we often don't have the guts or legal backing to publically shame someone.