Some of the accounts being blocked from certain access are themselves 18! You would think Reddit would consider that, but nope it doesn't.

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washadjeffmad 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Age of account was sufficient for Google and third-party services for verification until recently. My gmail account is almost 22 years old, in continuous use. I have a credit card on file with Google Pay. Why would I need to submit a photo to engage with a private service, outside of volunteering to help train a surveillance apparatus?

Is there any forum short of a senate subcommittee that the public can ask companies these questions? The silence is deafening.

	▲	salawat 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		...That would be a cost center, sir. If you don't like our product, you are free to not use us and make your own while foregoing doing any business in anywhere with either of one of the two major political parties. There is a reason why I don't accept private enterprise as something separate from Government. The nature of the incorporation legal fiction makes them proxies of Government power and influence, hence why I believe private enterprise should in some ways be as heavily restricted by Constitutional guardrails as the Government itself (allegedly) is.

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hunter2_ 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Probably because the transfer of accounts (typically for reasons of better spamming, but in this case for adult access) is possible.

However, that makes me wonder what mechanism might "unverify" an account holder's age upon transfer. I suppose it's simply a need to re-verify (take a new photo) upon every login, but then folks could transfer the session cookie to avoid needing the new owner to perform a login (unless a new device ID/fingerprint makes the old cookie useless).

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Jeremy1026 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Since you don't have to verify every time you use the account, transfer of verified accounts will still be a "problem" though. It's just a CYA to be able to say "we verified this account owner."

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DrJokepu 7 hours ago | parent [-]

But… You could transfer the account after age verification too. The only way to be sure is to ask for ID every time people use the website / application, then children will be truly finally safe from the horrors of the Internet.

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jvuygbbkuurx 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The website will only function when webcam is turned on with passport next to your face. Session is immeditely revoked on failure.

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Jeremy1026 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> You could transfer the account after age verification too.

Isn't that what I said?

	▲	hunter2_ 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes, but you also said it's a CYA, when indeed it's not sufficient CYA if only a former account owner, but not "this account owner," had been verified.

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Razengan 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> … I suppose it's simply a need to re-verify (take a new photo) upon every login …

Clearly the only foolproof solution is a 3rd-party camera pointed at your face at all times whenever you use a computer.

	▲	subscribed 5 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		And a *plug to measure the heart rate at all times in the convenient and unobtrusive way, to ensure the face is of the mammal, and not the mannequin.
	▲	throwway120385 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		A sort of "telescreen" if you will.

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soulofmischief 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

10 years was enough for Tom Fulp.

https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1549829/1

https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1555753/1

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gowld 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

SOTA is age inference: The platform studies your behavior to estimate your age.