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energy123 5 hours ago

I don't understand why online learning is that necessary. If you took Einstein at 40 and surgically removed his hippocampus so he can't learn anything he didn't already know (meaning no online learning), that's still a very useful AGI. A hippocampus is a nice upgrade to that, but not super obviously on the critical path.

staticman2 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> If you took Einstein at 40 and surgically removed his hippocampus so he can't learn anything he didn't already know (meaning no online learning), that's still a very useful AGI.

I like how people are accepting this dubious assertion that Einstein would be "useful" if you surgically removed his hippocampus and engaging with this.

It also calls this Einstein an AGI rather than a disabled human???

daxfohl 15 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

He basically said that himself:

"Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain too little falls into lazy habits of thinking".

-- Albert Einstein

zelphirkalt 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I guess the sheer amount and also variety of information you would need to pre-encode to get an Einstein at 40 is huge. Every day stream of high resolution video feed and actions and consequences and thoughts and ideas he has had until the age of 40 of every single moment. That includes social interactions, like a conversation and mimic of the other person in combination with what was said and background knowledge about the other person. Even a single conversation's data is a huge amount of data.

But one might say that the brain is not lossless ... True, good point. But in what way is it lossy? Can that be simulated well enough to learn an Einstein? What gives events significance is very subjective.

a-french-anon 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Kinda a moot point in my eyes because I very much doubt you can arrive at the same result without the same learning process.

jeltz 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It could possibly be useful but I don't see why it would be AGI.

andy12_ 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's true. Though could that hippocampus-less Einstein be able to keep making novel complex discoveries from that point forward? Seems difficult. He would rapidly reach the limits of his short term memory (the same way current models rapidly reach the limits of their context windows).

andsoitis 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Where does that training data come from?