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slaw 2 days ago

Russia/Ukraine war shows that 4th generation jets are not survivable in any current as of 2026 air defense environment.

bigyabai 2 days ago | parent [-]

4th generation jets are not designed to survive denied airspace. They're still useful; both sides in Ukraine are using 4th gen jets for air patrol, SEAD, escorts, intercepts and standoff munition launches.

slaw 2 days ago | parent [-]

Nothing that makes them jet fighters is used. Propeller planes with launchers could do the same.

bigyabai 2 days ago | parent [-]

Putting flares, chaff and ECM onto a propeller plane doesn't leave much takeoff weight for AASMs and KEPD munitions.