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sejje 3 hours ago

Hopefully other states don't follow this pattern; I don't think the government should be installing surveillance arrays, even if it's "for the children" or public safety.

Trading a little liberty for a little safety and all that.

Larrikin 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The problem is ever since COVID the cops don't do their job and everyone drives terribly.

infecto 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Maybe it exists but I wish there was more heavy hitting articles/research on this. I feel like an absolute grumpy old man but it feels drastically different compared to my younger years driving and I am only 40. These days I rarely see police on the side of the road ticketing and when I do it’s usually on a highway. Never do I see people getting pulled over in city streets.

My thesis has been an uptick on BS calls. Said differently the bad neighborhoods have gotten worse and funding for police is mismanaged.

Spooky23 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

Absolutely. They shut down for COVID and never came back.

A big part of traffic stops was to find weed and trade up for an arrest. With legalization, they’ve shifted to camera work, which has gotten even bigger with Flock.

sejje 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have noticed a severe uptick in bad semi-truck drivers on the interstate since COVID, I'll agree at least with that part.

The local cops here have always just run plates for stolen vehicles. Getting a ticket is almost unheard of. I don't know what their deal is, but you can speed right past them in the other lane, or if they're just parked on the corner.

I'm guessing you still can't pass them on a two-lane road without poking their ego.

SteveNuts 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I am constantly amazed at how many people blatantly run red lights now. It used to be that people would sometimes press their luck on a yellow a little bit, but now it'll be red for several seconds and people will still just drive right on through.

I'd love if the police enforced this insanely dangerous behavior instead of trying to catch people going 10 over on the highway.

stephen_g an hour ago | parent [-]

I see this a lot too here in Australia now, and yes it used to be pretty unusual but now I see it every day. I've sometimes wondered if it's just a frequency illusion but I'm sure it has got much worse, maybe since the COVID times?

mulmen an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’m not sure if it was COVID or the social movements around the same time like defund the police. Here in Seattle when defunding the police was suggested the police department threatened to close the precinct in a large residential area. Basically they attempted to extort the voters. I think the police have realized that crime is good for them because the more of it voters see the more they think police are needed.

hrimfaxi 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

Which leads to the extreme—maximal crime leads to maximum police budgets!

mulmen 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

There’s no upper bound for either of those things.

estimator7292 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Cameras aren't going to solve that.

The "problem" being solved with cameras is "cops aren't generating enough traffic ticket revenue"

infecto 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Would it not? I actually don’t think I would mind speeding cameras and the like. Put a camera on every street and auto ticket every car.

Spooky23 12 minutes ago | parent [-]

My city does it. It sucks ass. It’s a 70% vendor / 30% city revenue share and people avoid the city and use side streets to avoid the main avenues.

hamdingers 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

These cameras are by definition still cameras triggered by radar or laser systems, they're inactive unless a speeding vehicle is present. Hardly the surveillance array you're imagining.

Spooky23 10 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Noooo. Most cameras retain 30 days of video. That allows officers to review the violation.

These camera systems have always been about surveillance. Flock adds the Silicon Valley software process, while the older tech is “law enforcement tech”.

sejje 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well, they're putting up the flock cameras, too. We have four in a local small town.

But I'm guessing you are only correct sometimes. I bet some of them can be live-viewed, or track license plates.

andrepd an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's ridiculous, a radar that snaps a photo when a car goes over the speed limit is not, by any conceivable definition, a surveillance array.

There are real surveillance arrays, please worry about those instead.

XorNot 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is only said by those days intending to provide neither?

Is said in place of using actual arguments or evidence?