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abraxas 4 hours ago

For those who already read Rendezvous with Rama but need their alien aliens fix I can highly recommend "Shroud" by Adrian Tchaikovsky. It is a similar theme with modern writing and convincing aliens as is pretty much expected by now from Tchaikovsky.

gbourne 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Children of Time was excellent, so thank for this recommendation.

oniony 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I enjoyed Children of Time and also A Fire Upon the Deep, if you're looking for more recommendations.

jayGlow 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

the fourth book in that series comes out later this week if you haven't been keeping up with him

Pepe1vo 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'll admit I'm quite anxious for Children of Strife. Children of Time is an all-time favorite, but each subsequent book in the series was a bit of a disappointment. Fingers crossed this one turns the tide

shagie 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I kind of agree with you on that... and I kind of understand why.

The first book was an exploration of humanity in the stars. While there was contact, it had more the traditional science fiction footing that we're familiar with.

The second book was getting into the exploration of the mind and other minds. While the first book touched on the mind - with spiders being more relatable to how we think... the 2nd book presented us with something more alien in how the octopus thinks... and something even more alien.

The third book was downright confusing until the end and was more of a philosophy book about the mind. Can one mind be in two bodies? What entails thought? What is identity? ... and for that matter, what is reality?

The 2nd and 3rd books are good (and interesting) science fiction, but they go much deeper into exploring philosophy than many other science fiction books and use the scaffold of the universe to explore the mind rather than technological advancement. The upgrade of technology and how that changes things isn't the focus of the story - as one would expect in more traditional science fiction, but rather an exploration of a new mind. That change in the expectation from the first to the second (and third) book has some wish for more of that first book with the challenges of humans (as we can understand them).

Book 1 is a first contact story with survival. Book 2 is a psychological mystery about alien cognition (and a bit of horror to it too - "we're going on an adventure" gives me shivers). Book 3 is much more of a puzzle around unreliable narration and reality.

For me, I enjoyed the first book. I was confused by the 2nd book because of the change in the "it's not about the technology and survival anymore...". The 3rd book confused me on the first pass through it. The second time going through it and understanding where things were leading and being able to pick out the changes made more sense... even though I was expecting a book about the mind rather than science (the first pass through I thought it was more about the crow's minds).

jacquesm 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Agreed, the first one is a masterpiece and every sequel feels like a step down. It's a real pity because we do need more good SF writers, there are already too few of them.

stoneman24 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

For me, not so much a decrease in quality but more of an evolution as the landscape of sentient beings expands. The paired covids in the last book, were a great addition.

Don’t normally buy a hard cover or kindle (I like the paperback) but I may do that for book 4 “Children of Strife”

ternus 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

A mere month after Pretenders to the Throne of God. You have to admire his output.

Pepe1vo 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I liked shroud a lot, but the ending felt very ungratifying. It's like Tchaikovsky wrote himself into a corner and didn't really know how to wrap it up nicely. I find this to be true of some of his other books as well.

abraxas 3 hours ago | parent [-]

To each their own. I did not expect the ending and found it quite satisfying.

cyphertruck 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I just read a series of his books involving "unspace" so nice to see a recommendation. Will check out Shroud.

microflash 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, The Architects books were pretty great but they had very classic soap opera kind of vibe than hardcore science fiction. I did enjoy them nonetheless.

UltraSane 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Tchaikovsky has written some of the best books I have ever read like Children of Time and Children of Ruin and also some of the worst books I have ever read like Cage of Souls.