We don't need "open" networks (Digital Panopticons), we need private networks.

Both are good

baliex 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What are your thoughts on people self hosting their own websites and blogs instead of posting to big tech platforms? I’d say that extra openness was a good thing. I absolutely believe in privacy as well, and think ownership is important too.

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CactusBlue 4 hours ago | parent [-]

We already could've done that before, just throw a HTML file on a HTTP server on a cheap VPS

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danabramov 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's pretty much what atproto is, except it's typed JSON rather than HTML, and HTTP+WebSockets to allow aggregation.

I wrote more about how it works here if you're curious: https://overreacted.io/a-social-filesystem/

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CactusBlue 4 hours ago | parent [-]

and I actually don't hate that bit (I really like lexicons, although I might have approached it in a different way) - what I hate is the aggregation layer. I know that it is possible to have an AppView-less atproto app (e.g. RedDwarf), but I feel like much of the ecosystem still defaults to the assumption that it will go through the Bluesky AppView.

	▲	danabramov 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Unrelated apps (https://leaflet.pub/, https://tangled.org/, http://semble.so/) don't go through Bluesky Appview (since they need aggregations of different kind of data). I think aggregation is the only model that can compete with centralized services on UX, but of course different apps would need different backends.
	▲	verdverm 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		You may be confusing the Relay, a protocol component run by Bluesky, with the Bluesky AppView https://atproto.com/articles/atproto-for-distsys-engineers

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jeffbee 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is like saying anyone can open a lemonade stand in Mogadishu.

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Hamuko 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Who is this "we" and where can I read their opinions?

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jauntywundrkind 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

We have never had an online open public space where each of us has our voice, can shape our experience, can use our own compsable moderation, can integrate with whatever apps we choose.

How, in spite of having no data on what it would be like, people are so confident that leaving shared open connected mediums behind is the only way to go is such a mystery to me.

The radio station I'm on just played a modem tone, Mountain Chill Radio. But I was already gearing up to write what an amazing era this has been, how incredible a rise it has been that we can connect & talk, with so many people. My dialtone travels so much further & that is glorious. I have no idea, feel like I would have no chance to build a good private network for myself, that my life would stagnante and closed, if I had to build my networks myself in private, smuggling the light of my soul to others rather than being able to let it out.

I am happy to be online. I am proud of my "data", my voice, my app records. There's some less pleasant less shiny corners! But it is mad incredible that I get to do this live, that I get to have so many edges of connection and serendipity. People provide the most wild interesting comments and suggestions and topics, ongoingly. I benefit so much from them sharing their lives.

I spiritually believe deeply that we have our light to share with the universe. To turn your nose up at sharing, to renounce & see only evil, to let the Fear Uncertainty and Doubt, this spectre of the closed/bad/no-good controlling systems shape our thinking here is a pandora's box: I say you are shutting the door right as hope is finally trying to get out.