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jasonvorhe 2 hours ago

Agreed. Also, the second I found out that their entire UI stack is proprietary I lost all interest in that platform.

fsflover 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Don't the security hardware features of the GrapheneOS phones also rely on proprietary software/firmware?

jasonvorhe 2 hours ago | parent [-]

To my knowledge you have some proprietary firmware blobs, drivers, HAL and the Trusted Execution Environment shipping with GrapheneOS. But replacing Pixel's stock Android with GrapheneOS doesn't expose you to more proprietary components but instead reduces it (by sandboxing Google Play Services for example) and improves upon Android security overall (memory allocation, etc).

So yeah, GrapheneOS isn't 100% OSS, as far as I'm aware. But it doesn't expose me to more proprietary stuff like Jolla would.

fsflover an hour ago | parent [-]

You're not wrong, but the main selling point of GrapheneOS in comparison to other options is security, and it relies on proprietary software. So to me it looks a bit similar, although I agree that less blobs is definitely important.