I used to run a site that compares prices[0]. Not only is the ecosystem pull to the cloud strong, but many developers today look at bare metal as downright daunting.

Not sure where that fear comes from. Cloud challenges can be as or more complex than bare metal ones.

[0]: https://baremetalsavings.com/

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satvikpendem 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Not sure where that fear comes from.

Probably because most developers these days have not known a world without using cloud providers, with AWS being 20 years old now.

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jmathai 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Racking your own hardware doesn’t get you web UIs and APIs out of the box. At least it didn’t 2 decades ago.

	▲	satvikpendem 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Sure, now it does however (via the many OSS PaaS) so the calculus must also therefore change.

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jbverschoor an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Partitioning a server! Omg lol

It’s funny, bc AWS did not start this tour of business. What they did do is make it possible to pay by the hour. The ephemeral spare compute is what they started.

Yet almost nobody understood the ephemeral part.

You might even be better off running a macmini at home fiber, especially for backend processing

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hamandcheese 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Cloud challenges can be as or more complex than bare metal ones.

Big +1 to this. For what I thought was a modest sized project it feels like an np-hard problem coordinating with gcloud account reps to figure out what regions have both enough hyperdisk capacity and compute capacity. A far cry from being able to just "download more ram" with ease.

The cloud ain't magic folks, it's just someone else's servers.

(All that said... still way easier than if I needed to procure our own hardware and colocate it. The project is complete. Just delayed more than I expected.)

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keepamovin 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The fragmentation and friction! Comparing prices usually requires 10 open browser tabs and a spreadsheet, which is what keeps people locked into their default cloud. I built a tool to solve this called BlueDot (ie, Earth, where all the clouds are)[0]. It’s a TUI that aggregates 58,000+ server configurations across 6 clouds (including Hetzner). It lets you view side-by-side price comparisons and deploy instantly from the terminal. It makes grabbing a cheap Hetzner box just as easy as spinning up something on AWS/GCP.

[0]: https://tui.bluedot.ink