In principle, you are right. Cheaper than coal renewables are winning. Don't forget though, that fighter jets can't operate on batteries.

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mr_toad 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> fighter jets can't operate on batteries

Gas turbines can run on a variety of fuels, natural, synthetic or a mixture of both. It’s actually one of the reasons that a turbine was chosen for the M1.

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carabiner 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah but gas turbines by definitions run on "gas" kerosene based fuel. If you're talking about a battery powered fan or prop that's very different.

	▲	Nevermark 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Kerosene is a mundane chemical. It is made with from water, carbon dioxide and energy. Use green energy and atmospheric CO2, and it is carbon neutral.

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lokar 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They don’t contribute enough to matter

	▲	NewJazz 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		And using more electrics powered transport in other sectors frees up fossil fuels for other sectors.

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UqWBcuFx6NV4r 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That’s a red herring. It’s not worth mentioning.

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Supermancho 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Except for the industries where it does matter. Trivializing the needs of complex and energy hungry supply chains, is bad faith. They are one of the many reasons fossil fuels are so widely used.

	▲	kulahan 6 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It's not really bad faith when we could make enormous progress in an enormous number of industries, and this in no way stops any of that progress in those economies. It's specifically bad faith to say it as if it does somehow matter in the grand conversation, when the actual fallout is extremely small. Pretty much nobody is saying we must remove 100 PER CENT OF ALL FOSSIL FUEL USAGE EVERYWHERE FOREVER, just that we need to move off it.
	▲	317070 11 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		In the end, the industries that cannot run on biofuels are rare to non-existant. It's not fuel which is the problem, but fossil fuel! You totally can fly on biofuel, but it is not cheap compared to fossil fuel without externalized costs.
	▲	bryanlarsen 11 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		If we stop using fossil fuels for the >90% of usage where fossil fuels are easy to replace, it'll make it much easier & cheaper for the <10% where it's difficult.

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BLKNSLVR 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So we won't be able to fight air wars over the last remaining pieces of arable land.

I'm convinced.