| ▲ | roxolotl 10 hours ago |
| How’s it compare to 2000 though? Tech was ascendant in 2008 so not surprised to hear it didn’t do too badly then and in 2020 while people panicked tech again had a much easier time keeping people on remotely. EDIT: posted below as well https://xcancel.com/JosephPolitano/status/202991636466461124... There’s a longer term graph in the thread. We’ve got a long way to go before we hit 2000 numbers which is what I’d expected. |
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| ▲ | tunesmith 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| In Portland, there was a time in 2000-2002 where Nike and Intel had contract offers out to SW developers for $12/hour, and were getting slammed with applications. |
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| ▲ | raw_anon_1111 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | In Atlanta in 2000, I was making $52K a year working for a medium size company that printed bills. By 2002 I was making $65K at the same company. For context, I had my 2600 square foot 3.5/2 bedroom house built that year for $175K. | | | |
| ▲ | ryanSrich 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The equivalent of about $20/hr today for those wondering | | |
| ▲ | markus_zhang 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | Housing is the ultimate decider so I’d say that’s equivalent to at least 50 bucks today. | | |
| ▲ | andai 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Damn, never thought about it like that. That seems a lot more practical and relevant than the Big Mac Index. | | |
| ▲ | markus_zhang 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah I think housing is the real index. CPI doesn’t make sense for individuals unless you build your own index. | | |
| ▲ | dasil003 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It'll never happen because it shines a light on uncomfortable facts that would risk far too much cognitive dissonance across the political spectrum. Please keep the discourse to identity politics, culture wars, the Epstein files, and large-scale, unprovoked acts of international warfare; those will all be much easier for us to talk about as a nation than what we should do about housing prices. | |
| ▲ | lotsofpulp 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Housing (which is actually land in the school district you want to be in) Healthcare Education (not just for learning, but for signaling). Everything else is inconsequential in my budget. |
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| ▲ | tunesmith 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Not even close, not when all things are considered. $50/hour is 100k/year, which is still considered a decent salary. 24k/year in 2000-2002 was definitely not considered a decent salary. $12/hour for sw engineers was evil. I hung up on that recruiter and cursed for a while, cold-called my way to a transitional $20/hr job, and then finally landed somewhere at $55/hr which is when things started to feel normal again. $55/hr back then is not the same as $230/hr now. | | |
| ▲ | markus_zhang 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I think when you go up from 55 to 230 it is different from 12 to 50. But yeah, somehow I thought that was 20, not 12... |
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| ▲ | eitally 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I started my career at $14/hr in 1999, was at $19/hr in 2000, and switched to salary at $55k by 2001. I spent 15 years in corp IT running software teams... total comp got way better when I entered the big tech industry in 2015. |
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| ▲ | raw_anon_1111 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I was working in 2000 in Atlanta GA at boring old enterprises companies with 4 years of experience back then. If you were working for/targeting profitable non tech companies, the world was your oyster. I was working at a company that printed bills for utility companies and had offers from banks, insurance companies etc. The world didn’t stop buying Coca Cola, flying Delta or stop buying stuff from Home Depot because of the dot com crash |
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| ▲ | eikenberry 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Remember that the 2000 numbers are also out of a much smaller pool and the graph uses absolute numbers. So even if they were the same numbers in 2000 as 2020 it would have been a much, much larger percentage of all jobs. |
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