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baq 14 hours ago

> major dieoffs in warm latitudes, even for humans, due to exceeding wet bulb limits

my extremely pessimistic position is nothing will happen systemically even after the first few such events, and they'll take tens if not hundreds of thousands of lives.

I hope writing this out jinxes it.

wing-_-nuts 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You saw our reaction to covid. Millions. It will take millions of deaths in a nuclear armed country. See 'The ministry for the future'

fwipsy 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I generally endorse that book but I am not sure we are quite so short-sighted. What's necessary is for the people who have power (not just billionaires and politicians, but even the middle class in democracies) to feel that they are in danger. A heat wave with a million casualties might do it, but I'm not sure it's the only way.

netsharc 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The ingredients for the Syrian conflict came about because of climate change (dried up farms - farmers moving to cities to find jobs - social tension). The last 10+ years has shown that the relatively well-off Europeans would rather watch the Syrians drown rather than "pollute" their luxury enclaves...

We'd rather kill everyone else rather than give up our luxuries...

zeryx 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are you kidding? It will be Millions easily. It will just take 1 or two blackouts in wet bulb conditions to cause that

estimator7292 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We are already far past the point of mere thousands of lives. Entire cities have been wiped off the map by floods.

It will take millions, if not close to a billion lives before we get serious

zahlman 9 hours ago | parent [-]

> Entire cities have been wiped off the map by floods.

Could you name some?

yoyohello13 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I wish it were different but I would not be surprised if it’s billions before anything changes. And even then there will be a major proportion of people that celebrate it as the second coming.

fwipsy 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Billions? Sounds optimistic. Try trillions or quadrillions before anything really changes. Orders of magnitude are just a dime a dozen after all.

sulam 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Are we still taking about human deaths here? Confusing…