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the_af 13 hours ago

> When war becomes inevitable, we are forced to choose between morality and survival.

The kind of modern wars we're discussing now are often not about survival. Often, the initiator of the war wants dominance rather than survival.

This completely changes the equation. I do pass judgement on those who would wage war to ensure their dominance and access to resources.

dotancohen 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, agreed 100%. Some groups see it as their mission to dominate Eastern Europe, or the entire Middle East, or the entire southern Asian continent. The smaller states in the areas are under constant threat.

However in the case of Iran, who openly calls for the destruction of America and is blatantly developing technology that seriously threaten America and other Middle Eastern states, decisive military action to prevent the threat is important. Don't watch the bully themself and wait for him to confront you, when he is telling you the whole time his intention to destroy you.

the_af 10 hours ago | parent [-]

> Some groups see it as their mission to dominate Eastern Europe, or the entire Middle East, or the entire southern Asian continent.

Agreed that some countries seek to dominate other regions by force or threat, but you and I are not thinking of the same "groups".

> However in the case of Iran, who openly calls for the destruction of America and is blatantly developing technology that seriously threaten America and other Middle Eastern states, decisive military action to prevent the threat is important. Don't watch the bully themself and wait for him to confront you, when he is telling you the whole time his intention to destroy you.

No, Iran poses no real threat to America, and according to Trump last year suffered a 10+ year setback in their nuclear ambitions. Do you think Trump was lying back then, now, or both?

The US is asserting dominance. Even Trump occasionally says so. Iran mostly poses a danger to their own citizens and, arguably, against Israel when conflict flares up in the region, but not to the US.

By the way, the current situation in Iran is heavily influenced by actions by the UK and the US in the region, back in the 50s. So maybe meddling is not the right course of action?