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deno 11 hours ago

> The EU is working on a type of digital ID that an age-restricted platform would ask for, which only gives the platform the age information and no further PII.

Sure, it might start out that way, but once adoption reaches anything critical the PII will be required to squash free speech as soon as possible. But by then the interaction flow will be familiar, hardly anyone will even notice, never mind care.

The EU has the best frog boiling experts in the world.

vladms 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> ... will be required to squash free speech as soon as possible.

Maybe pointing the obvious but things happen if enough people care about them or do not care to oppose them.

From my perspective speech became "more free" lately - meaning everybody says all kind of incorrect, wrong things without fear of retribution even if there are laws against some of those, because people just don't care.

So maybe we should also focus on teaching people what is free speech, why is it good for them, why they needed, rather than worry about some hypothetical mechanism that someone will prevent it.

Of course both can be done, but I find it a bit funny that if the focus in mostly on not having mechanisms to prevent free speech, we might still end up in a situation that there are no such mechanisms but on the other hand nobody speaks freely because they don't care or only stare at their tiktok.

deno 9 hours ago | parent [-]

The whole point is they cannot introduce those laws outright for the obvious reasons they have to sneak it in covertly in guise of safety.

gzread 7 hours ago | parent [-]

By this reasoning we should oppose every law in case it's a foothold to sneak in a different law.

The CA/CO parental controls API law is very reasonable. It only mandates each OS must have a parental controls API, the use of which is up to the parents.

deno 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> By this reasoning we should oppose every law in case it's a foothold to sneak in a different law.

That has been the successful strategy for e.g. NRA w/ regard to 2nd amendment and they have been proven correct every single time.

abc123abc123 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yep, the digital wallet will become the authoritarian, beating heart of your life. If you don't comply with the EU, you can say bye, bye, to your bank account, any online interaction, they block your right to travel and so on.

The corona passports showed the way to achieve ultimate control of the population, and the EU digital wallet will be a permanent corona passport.

The public sheep, in their ignorance, are cheering this on, without knowing what will await them. It is our responsibility as technologists to fight this, and to educate the sheep.

sham1 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

One question about this doomsday scenario: "cui bono"? What does the EU gain from squashing free speech in your mind?

deno 6 hours ago | parent [-]

That’s the problem with censorship, isn’t it? It’s always in someone’s interest. What speech will be silenced depends on who is in power at the time.

If we can’t mount a strong defense of free speech on principle alone then it’s doomed anyway.