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| ▲ | NewJazz 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | And the supreme court is to blame for all of this because they decided to invalidate lower court injunctions, reasoning that there was no chance for "irreparable harm"... Yeah, right. | | |
| ▲ | light_hue_1 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | No. The people are to blame. Both the people who voted for the criminal to be president. And the people who supported such a horrible Democratic candidate that she couldn't even win against Trump. | | |
| ▲ | NewJazz 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | 1. Nobody supported Kamala as the democratic nominee. 2. The US senate is horribly malapportioned and gates scotus nominations. | |
| ▲ | Mc_Big_G 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | So everyone are to blame except the exceedingly small number of people who supported third party candidates that had no chance? | |
| ▲ | braincat31415 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Depends which people. The question is why people voted for Trump en masse. | | |
| ▲ | watwut 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | People who voted for Trump were pretty clear about what their issues were. They wanted to bully trans and they wanted to stick it to the libs. They were looking forward to liberals suffering. Some of them would never vote for a woman or black person. They liked masculinity Trump projects - aggressive insulting fraudster. There is no mystery about that. | | |
| ▲ | braincat31415 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's exactly the kind of simplistic thinking that I was talking about.
People had legitimate concerns about cost of living, food inflation (look at the charts of food prices 2020-2024), ballooning national debt, military adventures, crime, fraud, expensive housing and rent. I could go on.
Trump's government is unlikely to offer any solutions to the above, but that's a different story. Voting because they wanted libs to suffer... sheesh. Most people are not that dumb and have objective reasons to vote a certain way. Any party that wants to stay in power longer will have to address these issues.
Do you really think an average family is more concerned about trans issues than their inability to afford a house? | | |
| ▲ | kakacik 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Unfortunately you are pretty much out of touch with reality. What parent wrote is true for large swaths of voters (sticking it to libs - any regular US forum I ever opened was full of 'libtards' and other worse insults even on completely unrelated topics... or just go to bible south, even completely ignoring racism and bigotry topic). Sure, thats not all, then there are folks believing that a criminal, notorious liar, populist and suspected pedophile is going to do magic unheard of in reality. Very smart, what could go wrong... Solution of the issues you write would move US to highly regulated country maybe like France, which is unpassable in US and would cause massive issues down the line. Also, the issues you list are valid for basically whole world, has many reasons and US republicans are the very last group of people in a long line of people who would tackle specifically those effectively, they usually go into opposite direction. | |
| ▲ | watwut 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Frankly, that is just lying to yourself. None of that favored Trump. National debt, military adventures, crime, fraud - all of those are consistently better under democratic administrations. They are consistently worst under republican administrations. Trump himself committed crimes and it was very clear he will be more corrupt then anyone before him. Trump himself talked like someone who will be aggressive ... and here we are with Venezuela, Iran clusterfuck. > expensive housing and rent People who genuinely cared about those did not voted for Trump. However, some used these as excuse. > Voting because they wanted libs to suffer... sheesh. Yes. I say so because I was actually listening to what conservatives said and did. Yes, if you do not read what they actually say, there was a lot of sane-washing going on. But, you have to ignore what Trump voters were actually saying in conservative places. > Most people are not that dumb and have objective reasons to vote a certain way. Their priorities are not what you say they are. It is simple as that. > Any party that wants to stay in power longer will have to address these issues. Do you really think an average family is more concerned about trans issues than their inability to afford a house? Frankly, yes, MANY conservative people were radicalized by that prospect. That is why Trump team made created culture war about it prior election and why they do it now too. |
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| ▲ | watwut 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | And as always, all acts of republicans and conservatives are fault of the democrats. The only people who are innocent are the people who have huge power in their hands and literally made decisions that caused this. | |
| ▲ | mft_ 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | If you really want to get to the root cause, on the Democratic side it’s the people who promoted/supported/covered up for Biden when it would have been obvious to anyone close that he wasn’t fit for the purpose any more. And Biden himself, for his hubris. That was why things were rushed and there wasn’t a proper primary. Yes, they could have held a very late/quick convention and would likely not have picked Kamala, but anyone getting the nomination at that late stage would still have been hugely in the back foot. | | |
| ▲ | tremon 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | There is no single root cause in a complex system of checks and balances. Many parts need to fail for things to get as bad as they are now. Trying to reduce everything to a single fault is either stupid populism or blatant propaganda. | |
| ▲ | sgc 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I love how the root cause is always the opposition, never the perpetrator. Focusing on the Democrats (who are hot garbage) is such a wonderful way to keep attention focused anywhere but on the almost half the country still supporting a murderous cabal filled with people covering for a bunch of (other??) people who raped children to get pleasure from the sexual torture (yes, it's pretty clear from the Epstein files that they did everything they could to destroy those young children's minds and hearts for sport, and that was the real 'game' they were playing). But by all means, carry on about bad tactics in the election, surely that is the 'root cause' here. | | |
| ▲ | tdeck 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't disagree with you, but I also wonder what exactly the Biden justice department was doing with these files for four years. It seems to me like they were covering for the same people. Being "in the club" is more important to them than party. | | |
| ▲ | the_real_cher 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | This is the real lesson to take away from all of this. Voting doesn't matter the only thing in history that has ever changed corrupt politicians is violence. |
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| ▲ | nkrisc 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It’s the electoral college. It needs to be abolished. | | |
| ▲ | thechao 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Restricted representative size, gerrymandering, FPTP voting, businesses with resident/citizen rights, the restriction of 42 U.S.C. 1983 to not cover Federal actors... |
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