Isn't the point of technology and engineering to find alternatives with the resources that one has?

Yes, but it takes time.

Like we have solar now. People talk about how it saves environment. But I think another similar win would be reduction in dependency on oil, and countries won't have to go to war over oil. But it takes time...

But it seems what technology gives, technology takes away. Because new technologies comes with its own resource requirements. And the cycle looks like it will go on...

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the_af 14 hours ago | parent [-]

> Yes, but it takes time.

So be it.

This doesn't excuse going to war with neighbors because you want to steal their stuff. Learn to live with yours.

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qsera 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Learn? Can you learn to live without eating? Do you know what happens when an economy collapse?

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the_af 11 hours ago | parent [-]

> Can you learn to live without eating?

Would you murder your neighbor to steal their food? Especially if you weren't really starving, just preemptively stealing their supplies?

All this talk of hoarding and taking resources by force used to be the stuff of villains. When did it become normalized?

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qsera 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Have you ever gone through a whole a week without eating anything? Have you seen your kids go through that?

If don't, then I will have to say you got no idea about what you are talking about..

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the_af 10 hours ago | parent [-]

> Have you ever gone through a whole a week without eating anything? Have you seen your kids go through that

Have you? And did you murder your neighbor to steal their food? Did you believe the best course of action was to fight your neighbors?

Your ridiculous analogy doesn't even apply to the US, one of the wealthiest countries in the world. In your imagined scenario, are they the poor starving family who must kill and steal to survive?

Dude. Think hard before getting backed into absurd metaphors.

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qsera 9 hours ago | parent [-]

>Have you?

I haven't, and that is why I am not making higher-than-you, virtuous claims about how I would act in that situation. Maybe you should do the same.

>Your ridiculous analogy doesn't even apply to the US, one of the wealthiest countries in the world

And where did that wealth come from? Sure, you have smart people, but it also require a functioning economy to mobilize and convert all those talent into wealth. If a external entity can choke your economy and if your government just stand-by, virtue-signaling to people such as yourselves, your wealth will disappear in no time. BOOM! Back to zero...

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the_af 8 hours ago | parent [-]

> I haven't, and that is why I am not making higher-than-you [...]

Then maybe stop making up hypotheticals that don't apply to me, you, or any of the nations involved? What are you hoping to achieve here? "Let's assume we live in a Mad Max world, would you steal all the women and water"?

> And where did that wealth come from? Sure, you have smart people, but it also require a functioning economy to mobilize and convert all those talent into wealth

So you think the US doesn't have a functioning economy or smart people, and therefore must resort to war to get their resources?

> BOOM! Back to zero...

So, in your bizarre logic, it's best to resort to theft and murder?

	▲	qsera 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You win! Good day!