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| ▲ | benterix 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah but this itself doesn't necessarily have to mean anything, e.g. DARPA sponsored half of the nice things we're using every day. | | |
| ▲ | lukan 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | "DARPA sponsored half of the nice things we're using every day" That's a very bold claim. (And I am aware of the history of the Internet) | | |
| ▲ | benterix 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | "Half" is obviously an exaggeration but apart from time-sharing operating systems, the Internet, what is now CSAIL and (partially) GPS, they sponsored a ton of open source projects. They used to maintain a catalog[0]. The Web Archive version[1] contains a partial list (e.g. OpenBSD was sponsored only for a few years and is not included there). [0] https://www.darpa.mil/opencatalog [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20140301185004/https://www.darpa... | | |
| ▲ | roysting 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | The bigger issue with your perspective is that you do not realize that the underlying purpose of the things you do not attribute to the military or equate as bad, is still groundwork or “capacity building” deliberately for militaristic purposes and objectives, usually very intentionally so that you don’t realize it. You would likely not support things if you were overly told what the underlying objective was. Let me put it this way, if you wanted a populace that will willingly enter the military to serve your purposes of world domination through constant warfare, would you promote TV and movies, rather than reading classical literature and philosophy; and fund and press movie houses to make films that put joining the military to go to war and templating being a “warrior” as a positive thing instead of a negative, murderous thing? | | |
| ▲ | benterix 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't have any perspective, just state a fact - DARPA did contribute to things we find useful. The core issue itself is terribly complex because in an ideal world we would never need military at all, and at least in Europe we had this hope that humanity is evolving in this direction, and that eventually even the wars in the Middle East and Africa will calm down. 2014 and 2022 were rude awakenings - there are crazy people out there, and they became nation leaders, and will start a war for one reason or another. That's why I don't have a unified opinion on that, especially that some military tech like interceptors are saving people's lives. |
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| ▲ | endofreach 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | To be fair, the name of that Department used to be very confusing... | | |
| ▲ | WorldMaker 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | The name of that Department was chosen to be aspirational, to encourage it to try to keep within its Constitutional guardrails, to keep it focused on the right mission. Sure, it often didn't live up to its aspirations and a lot of the fence posts of those Constitutional guardrails got moved, but wearing those aspirations on its sleeve left some room for people to challenge it and openly criticize it by reminding the Department of its guardrails and its mission. The name change is disrespectful to the Constitution, if not terrifying for other reasons. |
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