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SunshineTheCat a day ago

Wild that it says this on their site:

>Sign up with no phone number: Get a private email account without handing over more personal data than necessary, making it harder for advertisers, data brokers, and other services to track you online.

I guess it doesn't mention law enforcement so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

gruez a day ago | parent | next [-]

I'm not sure what you were expecting here. If you have data and the police shows up with a warrant, you can't just tell them "nah we don't feel like it".

drnick1 a day ago | parent [-]

You can do what Signal does: store basically no data, so that you don't have any data to hand over.

ranger_danger a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The article explains that the account was identified based on a credit card payment for a paid account, which does not invalidate the statement in question IMO. Perhaps we differ on the definition of "private" or something else, but unless all parties are using proton, email is inherently insecure and somebody can/will have a record of your communication regardless.

lucb1e a day ago | parent [-]

> unless all parties are using proton, email is inherently insecure and somebody can/will have a record of your communication regardless.

That the person you're exchanging messages with, has your messages, is hardly a surprise. Not everyone-but-Proton sells your data though so it's not quite that black-and-white

ranger_danger a day ago | parent [-]

You're not wrong, but I think it just means you can never be 100% safe, as even the recipient of your message may be secretly working against you.

wat10000 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They could have used a VPN to connect to Proton and paid for their account with bitcoin or cash and then law enforcement would have had a very tough time. Instead, they paid with a method connected to their identity. Of course Proton handed it over when law enforcement came knocking.

If you don't want info being given to law enforcement by third parties, your best bet is to make it so that nobody else has access to it in the first place. You might get away with third parties that are in a jurisdiction unfriendly to wherever you live. Definitely don't hand over your info to a company in fricken' Switzerland and then be surprised when they comply with law enforcement requests for it.

expedition32 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When a SWAT team drops in nobody's gonna take a bullet for your emails.

renewiltord a day ago | parent | prev [-]

This is disappointing. I would pay up to $10/month for an email provider who would go to jail for me.

gruez a day ago | parent | next [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletproof_hosting

renewiltord a day ago | parent [-]

Actually neat. No mail deliverable issues?

roughly 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> I would pay up to $10/month for an email provider who would go to jail for me.

You might need to pay more than that.

renewiltord 14 hours ago | parent [-]

I think I could be convinced to do $11/month if they'd also be willing to die for me.